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Thats a bold statement to say two 7970's vs one yields no increase in performance
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Originally Posted by specopsFI View Post

This is the day when GPU testing was forever changed.

I don't agree. It adds another metric.

I'd argue that GPU testing changed back when PCGH started the frame time testing and outed microstutter about three years ago.
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Thats a bold statement to say two 7970's vs one yields no increase in performance

Check out the framerates of games like Skyrim and others. I agree the difference is next to none when the game is running @ 90+ FPS. That same statement certainly won't hold true when testing borderline 30fps - 60fps situations.
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Thats a bold statement to say two 7970's vs one yields no increase in performance

I'd agree if it was a single site but several different, decent sources have come to the same conclusion based off their own analysis.
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I'd agree if it was a single site but several different, decent sources have come to the same conclusion based off their own analysis.

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I don't agree. It adds another metric.

I'd argue that GPU testing changed back when PCGH started the frame time testing and outed microstutter about three years ago.

I'd agree it adds another metric. It's just that IMHO, that addition is a revolution. This isn't THE metric, this isn't THE manifest of stuttering, but this is the most concrete step towards understanding gameplay experience beyond frame rates.
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The anandtech artical actually explains why the 7970 cfx behaves in in this way atm. They are adding a latency<->frame space slider in july that will allow a more fine tuned approach (currently, they are mostly concerned with latency, hence the 0-5ms frames/line graph turned bar graph)

It will be interesting to see how this turns out. I really do not know what to expect.
     
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Thats a bold statement to say two 7970's vs one yields no increase in performance

Maybe, but it's often accurate. Crossfire has huge problems, and not just on the 7000 series.

In my experience with my 6970s the only games I have where two in crossfire is appreciably better than a single card are Crysis Warhead and Neverwinter Nights 2 (the latter of which does not need the boost). All my other games have the same or lesser smoothness with two cards. And yes, everything is working normally, and frame rates are increasing as they should. Still, no improvement in Crysis, Hawken, or half a dozen other games because of highly inconsistent frame intervals.

Older cards are often even worse, and it's been this way for ~8 years, at least in AFR mode.
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