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You know a lot of us have been gaming on PC's for a while now and have gone through any number of setups. It's not that hard to tell when a game is throwing out 20 -30fps vs. 60fps. It's also hard not to notice a stark difference from playing Cryisis 3 with my single 7950 vs CF 7950's. All of this stuff is pretty obvious.
Actually it's even simpler, use high speed camera. Even lowspeed one would tell you stuff because of interference between capture rate and refresh rate.
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Not only i have everything maxed out on the game (except AA which i use FXAA) im using 1440P with customized cvar option as well to enhance image quality beyond game default in game options.

so....no, you haven't duplicated the test scenario. It sounds to me like you're either running it w/ vsync, or you're not as sensitive to stutter as you think you are: http://www.pcper.com/image/view/21618?return=node%2F56826
http://www.pcper.com/image/view/21617?return=node%2F56826
Edited by TranquilTempest - 3/30/13 at 4:40pm
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The game play is smoother sometimes...
I think there is still an issue with certain configurations. Just because your system runs great for you, does not mean there is not something wrong for others. It could be anything to a "bad" card, ram or some other random component.

Like I said in another thread, I had horrible stutter with a SINGLE 7870XT in my system, even though I was getting better frame rates than I was with my GTX580. The experience was horrible. I did everything this side of formatting to resolve the issue. Nothing helped.

I believe that you know the difference between ~20 and ~60 FPS. That does not mean that the test system they used in the PCper article did not run into some issues. Having said that, people consistently complain of crossfire issues and AMD has admitted there are driver issues. I believe AMD will start getting it under control and results like this will help.

There is something wrong.... Thats for sure... But for example..

Im trying to emphasize this ALOT.. I prefer a gamepad over mouse/kb on games like crysis 3/bioshock/tomb raider SP campaigns for example...
I said this a couple of times before... With the gamepad i dont notice that much the microstutter... Once i use the mouse/kb bang stuttering galore... Take the gamepad again and wheres the microstutter?> Input lag <===

Wish i have a good camera so i can record this first hand... Vsync alone dont work all the time No vsync is a horrible mess in that department..

Now, what i do is i cap my frames or use radeonpro dynamic vsync and bang problem is all gone smooth as a baby..

So there is a combination between the frametimes and input lag which combined makes this whole mess...
post #324 of 420
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Originally Posted by TranquilTempest View Post

so....no, you haven't duplicated the test scenario. It sounds to me like you're either running it w/ vsync, or you're not as sensitive to stutter as you think you are: http://www.pcper.com/image/view/21618?return=node%2F56826

I dont need to duplicate no tests, im running higher settings than him XD...

of course im running with vsync why shouldnt i? screen tearing is game braking period... That option is the first one i turn on lol...

Im very sensitive to stutter my friend.. as you see vsync problem solved

lol pwned
again all alone i was right once again..


wait wait
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For both NVIDIA and AMD multi-GPU solutions with standard Vsync, enabling it definitely changes the story. NVIDIA’s cards pretty much perform as we expected but for CrossFire we didn’t really know what expect with the various visual concerns. It does appear that the runts problem was at least mostly solved with the enabling of Vsync though to be clear we are only testing a couple of game at this point – much more needs to be done.




not only you get better min frame rates you get higher avg as well


so fraps is useful after all. lol just pure win
Edited by zGunBLADEz - 3/30/13 at 4:52pm
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Yup there is something fishy in AMD drivers. A card runs faster with VSync, than without.
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I dont need to duplicate no tests, im running higher settings than him XD...

of course im running with vsync why shouldnt i? screen tearing is game braking period... That option is the first one i turn on lol...

Im very sensitive to stutter my friend.. as you see vsync problem solved

lol pwned
again all alone i was right once again..


wait wait



not only you get better min frame rates you get higher avg as well

Good for you, you were right!

So it is not a conspiracy everyone!
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So all this time zGunBLADEz has been going on, all he had to have done was read the review.
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So all this time zGunBLADEz has been going on, all he had to have done was read the review.

Yeah, who would have thought locking frame rate to refresh rate would have fixed an issue with frame delivery time?

MIND=BLOWN!
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So all this time zGunBLADEz has been going on, all he had to have done was read the review.

So all this time, i read that review ..

But wait he just updated that part not so long ago...

Mind blown? Or he did a NINJA???
Im pretty sure you guys would point me out to that part long time ago...

So dont try to be the smart guy now...

Ryan dont have the dignity to put and UPDATE with the vsync tests to his article because he screw it bad... So whats left? Lets do a ninja and make them believe it was there all alone..

This video would prove my point before the ninjaed XD lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH3l_CqhloA
Edited by zGunBLADEz - 3/30/13 at 5:35pm
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So all this time, i read that review ..

But wait he just updated that part not so long ago...

Mind blown? Or he did a NINJA???
Im pretty sure you guys would point me out to that part long time ago...

So dont try to be the smart guy now...

Ryan dont have the dignity to put and UPDATE with the vsync tests to his article because he screw it bad... So whats left? Lets do a ninja and make them believe it was there all alone..

This video would prove my point before the ninjaed XD lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH3l_CqhloA

That page was there since the article was first posted on the 27th. I read it the very first time I saw the article.

The part 3 he mentions was this article from February:
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-Part-3-First-Results-New-GPU-Performance-Tools
Edited by Forceman - 3/30/13 at 5:45pm
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