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Originally Posted by Rubers View Post

Foolsmasher will not be pleased they're diluting the "upper class" image of the iphone biggrin.gif

Glad to see I'm in your thoughts. wink.gif

But yes, this could weaken the brand if they're not careful. It could also cannibalize the more expensive model's sales.

It seems Cook is more and more focused on the bottom line now, whereas Jobs was a better innovator/thinker who literally created tech markets. I can't say I enjoy Cook's approach as much, but I certainly can't pass much judgement as I think the iPhone 5 is pretty great.
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Originally Posted by Clairvoyant129 View Post

So when Apple puts in one the fastest mobile GPUs + a respectable CPU and tons of software optimization, they get criticized as being behind the curve. When Samsung does it on their plastic shells, it's a ok.

They are behind the curve, not because of their lack of software optimization or because of lackluster hardware (they still have 1GB of RAM, while the industry standard is now 2GB), but because they have a fully locked ecosystem, no expandable memory, no replaceable battery, and they employ anti-competitive business practices centering around their need to patent troll other companies.

The reason most people hate Apple actually isn't about the phone. It's about the business. I think the issue with the iPhone 5 is that there wasn't a whole lot that changed from the 4S to the 5. They added a few more pixels, but the screen is relatively unchanged. The OS is virtually the same. The look of the phone is almost the same. I'm seeing a lot of "the same" going from the 4S to the 5. Admittedly, Samsung is guilty of many of the same issues with their Galaxy S4. The big change, though, is that they've added connectivity options, sensors, and additional software that makes the phone unique to other phones on the market. Couple that with expandable storage via a Micro-SD card and a replaceable battery, and suddenly it looks like Samsung is remaining innovative while Apple is stagnating.

I think that's what most users see in Apple. The iPhone 5 is a decent phone, but that's about it. wink.gif
Edited by Mad Pistol - 3/27/13 at 9:43am
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Low end iphone? Is it going to be a pen and piece of paper? I'm sure they'll patent it and all the sheep will call it revolutionary.
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Originally Posted by Clairvoyant129 View Post

So when Apple puts in one the fastest mobile GPUs + a respectable CPU and tons of software optimization, they get criticized as being behind the curve. When Samsung does it on their plastic shells, it's a ok.

They are behind the curve, not because of their lack of software optimization or because of lackluster hardware (they still have 1GB of RAM, while the industry standard is now 2GB), but because they have a fully locked ecosystem, no expandable memory, no replaceable battery, and they employ anti-competitive business practices centering around their need to patent troll other companies.

The reason most people hate Apple actually isn't about the phone. It's about the business. I think the issue with the iPhone 5 is that there wasn't a whole lot that changed from the 4S to the 5. They added a few more pixels, but the screen is relatively unchanged. The OS is virtually the same. The look of the phone is almost the same. I'm seeing a lot of "the same" going from the 4S to the 5. Admittedly, Samsung is guilty of many of the same issues with their Galaxy S4. The big change, though, is that they've added connectivity options, sensors, and additional software that makes the phone unique to other phones on the market. Couple that with expandable storage via a Micro-SD card and a replaceable battery, and suddenly it looks like Samsung is remaining innovative while Apple is stagnating.

I think that's what most users see in Apple. The iPhone 5 is a decent phone, but that's about it. wink.gif

Very much yes. Apple (and their followers) always make their products out to be some amazing, high end, "only for the wealthy" products, when they're really not all that much different in actual composition compared to competing products. If this rumor of a low end iPhone is true and they really do release it at an amazing price, what will all that "superior wealthy-man's products" hype be then? It amazes me how many iPhone/Mac lovers I come across that seriously believe Apple products are all-American hardware, even with the huge fiasco over the Foxconn working conditions... doh.gif "Ughuguhghg Samsung cheap Korean crap parts." Their faces when you argue that iPhones have Samsung processors and RAM, and that the devices are manufactured in Taiwan. lachen.gif
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Low end iphone? Is it going to be a pen and piece of paper? I'm sure they'll patent it and all the sheep will call it revolutionary.

lachen.gif Little dramatic but I enjoy the humor. First it's "lol Samsung = cheap plastic," then it's "OMG Apple! They're making a plastic iPhone model to make it more affordable (because $0-200 isn't? Rofl) for everyone that wants one!" I wholeheartedly admit it. Both sides have their obnoxious remarks and bashing. I do it purely out of good humor. thumb.gif
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 3/27/13 at 10:21am
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It's so amusing listening to Fandroids.
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post #36 of 132
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But yes, this could weaken the brand if they're not careful. It could also cannibalize the more expensive model's sales.

That is what I was thinking. Quite a few people, by no means all, buy the iPhone as it is a fashion / culture icon. If they are given the option to buy something that looks like the "real" iPhone, and carries the same branding, they will take it.

It may also "cheapen" the brand.
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Originally Posted by Foolsmasher View Post

It seems Cook is more and more focused on the bottom line now, whereas Jobs was a better innovator/thinker who literally created tech markets. I can't say I enjoy Cook's approach as much, but I certainly can't pass much judgement as I think the iPhone 5 is pretty great.

Also agreed. Cook seems to lack vision, he seems focused on profit only.

Jobs, like him or not, was a genius at creating a "percieved need". User experience above all (mostly).


Something must be wrong, I'm actually agreeing with Foolsmasher. Is this the real life? Or is this just fantasy?
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Low end iphone? Is it going to be a pen and piece of paper? I'm sure they'll patent it and all the sheep will call it revolutionary.

Attitudes like that are the main problem with the Android community, keep it up.
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Very much yes. Apple (and their followers) always make their products out to be some amazing, high end, "only for the wealthy" products, when they're really not all that much different in actual composition compared to competing products. If this rumor of a low end iPhone is true and they really do release it at an amazing price, what will all that "superior wealthy-man's products" hype be then? It amazes me how many iPhone/Mac lovers I come across that seriously believe Apple products are all-American hardware, even with the huge fiasco over the Foxconn working conditions... doh.gif "Ughuguhghg Samsung cheap Korean crap parts." Their faces when you argue that iPhones have Samsung processors and RAM, and that the devices are manufactured in Taiwan. lachen.gif

rolleyes.gif Can you say dumb and dumber?
 
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I wonder why no one complained when Samsung decided to stick in a slower dual core Snapdragon + a slower Adreno 225 in the NA GS3? I thought Android was "ahead" of the curve.

wait, since when do people "not complain?"
they complain every single time a foriegn manufacturer does this...whether its due to lower spec hardware or the fact that the SOC change will cut ROM development down to barebones for the more "homely" of the two.
it was a massive point of contention with the one X, the s3, the note, and every other single phone that does this...the excuse always seems to be "LTE" implementation, but come on.
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Well for people that want a $0 iPhone with contract its probably a good idea.

Iphone 4? I have one an have zero issues with anything. Now the phone is free on contract and if history plays out the 4s will be free on contract post 5s release.

Again this analyst crap needs to stop. Although it seems to be affective at getting people onto their site, but i digress, stop.
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