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In this day and age, having new games crash is very rare, assuming your PC is running smooth and there are no driver issues or unstable overclocks. I haven't tried Tomb Raider though so I don't know how buggy it is or isn't. As for configuring my PC to play games optimally, it only takes a few seconds. Games auto-detect which settings to use, and usually they're ideal or close to ideal. Looking at your PC, you should be able to just turn up the settings to max in most games, just like I do.

The only games that crash for me are older ones, and/or modded ones. The newest game that crashed for me was Iron Front: Liberation 1944, but that game was indy and on a buggy engine so it's expected. The last well known game that crashes for me is Fallout: New Vegas (2010), but I only play it with about 50 mods, and it only crashes during loading screens in modded locations, so I'm pretty sure the vanilla game is stable.
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As everyone else has said, you shouldn't really have more than half a dozen crashes a year. There will be issues every now and then. Drivers might go completely insane (mine did about 2 years ago - just decided to not use my GPUs, would get 2fps in game), windows might go insane (only allowing a few % CPU), etc. They're always fixed by a re-boot.

If a system re-boot isnt fixing the problem, and you're getting multiple crashes, its your system, not the game. Final releases are almost always very stable. A while back (like 2004), they were less so. However, Windows 7, current drivers, etc. Don't have much of an issue with running anything to a certain degree. You might not get the best FPS possible on old drivers, but there shouldn't be any massive issues.
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Thanks for all your replies everyone!

Blizzard games aren't that graphically intensive. I've never had their recent releases like D3 and SC2 HOTS crash on me when playing at Ultra settings. I've played other MMOs like SWTOR, Guild Wars 2 and TERA which are a little more graphics demanding and never had them crash on me. But everyone is probably right that the issue is with my system if I'm now seeing this many crashes with these new games which I wish wasn't true. Bioshock Infinite ran smoothly yesterday no issue. Tomb Raider is definitely a game that will stress your computer. So I will stress test my computer again and do memory checks. I'll probably do a driver sweep too. Before the new drivers came out, I would be able to play Tomb Raider smoothly after 2-3 crashes. I haven't tried playing Tomb Raider again with the new drivers since I already finished the game. I'll probably give it another play tonight.

My CPU is at 4.6Ghz using the simple one click setup provided by the Asus ROG board. My GPUs are at stock settings. My temps look normal during gameplay. I have custom watercooling. CPU @ 50-59C. GPUs @ 40-43C.
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post #14 of 24
Don't forget to account for instable over clocking causing crashes as well.

Many times I hear people complain a game is crashing when they really had instable settings from the get - go.

Having stock settings as well as up to date drivers is a surefire way to prevent almost all crashes for sure.
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I ran Prime 95 for 9 hours while I was at work. Temps were between 60-70C I didn't see any problems. Then I ran IBT for an hour later to stress my RAM. I also did a memtest. I ran Furmark for an hour for my GPUs. It seems normal with temps at 55C. Funny thing is that only my games in Steam crash. None of my Blizzard games or MMOs crashed. So I did a "Verify Integrity of Games" on steam to make sure all the packets were downloaded. All the steam games look normal. Oh by crashing, I mean that the screen would go black, make some static sizzling noise then the last couple seconds of game music would loop over and over. I found someone who had the same issue as me. His solution was to underclock his GPU using nvidiainspector. I didn't want to try underclocking just yet so I put my GPUs back at stock. My games run buttery smooth without OC so I didn't really need to OC them.

I updated my BIOS. The update notes says it increases stability. So why not try it.

Afterwards, I went to test each RAM individually. I have 4x4GB sticks. Maybe one is faulty. I pulled them all out first and checked to see if maybe their contact pins were scratched or damage in anyway before testing them individually in my system. Then I FOUND IT by chance as I continually checked my other 3 RAM sticks as the other one was booting my system. One of my RAM sticks had 2 surface mounted ceramic capacitors dangling loose with each of them having one side not soldered on. Please oh please let this be the only issue.

I put back 2 good 4GB sticks in dual channel. I launched Tomb Raider. TR would always crash within a few minutes of gameplay. That didn't happen. I lanunched Bioshock Infinite. Bioshock would always crash once at the menu screen. That didn't happen this time. I played Borderlands 2 for a couple hours straight. Nothing went wrong. Usually BorderLands2 would always crash once.

I really hope the RAM was the only issue. There were other sugguestions I was reading in other forums that the power supply could be struggling at higher loads which is totally possible but I've stressed tested my system so I don't think so. One thing I'm really hoping its not is the GPU. I'd hate to take down my watercooling loop to take out my GPU.

I have Gskill Ripjaw series RAM. I believe you have to send all the sticks back for repairs right since they are all matching? I think I read that somewhere months ago. I don't have any spare RAM sticks and I don't want any downtime so I'm happy with just 2x4GB since I only game and don't do any video/photoshop work.
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I have never ever experienced a game crashing or freezing on console.


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I have never ever experienced a game crashing or freezing on console.


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If you've experienced games crashing or freezing on consoles, my condolences. redface.gif
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I had skyrim on ps3 die many many many times.
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Originally Posted by dranas View Post

I had skyrim on ps3 die many many many times.

Yeah with this generation of consoles I've had games freeze/crash on me. If it happened in the past it was usually due to overheating, but nowadays it's obvious that most games are rushed and released prematurely.
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We as consumers shouldn't have to suffer with premature releases.
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