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The Apogee HD is a great block, one of the best when it comes to performance, and the best in terms of mounting systems (it's impossible to mess up, and difficult to NOT get a good mount!).

The MCP35X is more powerful than the D5 and will cost less as you don't need to get an aftermarket top or mod kit, the top it comes with is essentially an aftermarket top designed by Swiftech and I havennot seen any other tops perform as well. It's PWM so it will automatically adjust it's speed.
I do recommend spending the $13 on the MCP35X heatsink, as it will greatly prolong the life of the unit. An 80x15mm fan is also recommended for attaching to the heatsink, dropping temps even more, but if you are going to have a fan blowing directly across the heatsink anyway you don't have to buy a separate one.
   
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post #22 of 26
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Okay your right I think I'll just get a Swiftech apogee hd they seem like a good block for $60

Don't just settle smile.gif Ask yourself , why do I want this block or why do I not want that block.
The more time you spend searching about the blocks the less time you will possibly spend later regretting about not getting the proper block.

Trust me, I spent $200+ on my xspc kit.. and now I spent $560 on "upgrading it" this time i spent about 10days before actually buying all the parts.
(seeing as my UV tubing is out of stock, im not questioning if I should build my new loop, or even buy a new case.. im just trying to finalize my build, the worst thing is side grades... what do i do with my $200 kit and $300 case after i buy new one smile.gif )

I'm sure you'll be fine, don't jump the gun, if you were going to order it today, sit back and don't, do more research, same as tomorrow.

(another user mentioned the mcp35x sure its good pump don't forget to check out Koolance PMP-450S wink.gif .. the mcp35x has like 2.x feet of pressure more than a d5 pump and has 30+ gallons less flow rate so its not safe to say its "better" )

http://www.frozencpu.com/images/awards/pumpchartpdf.pdf -> good for a quick reference, you want enough pressure to get through all your components and fittings and tubing, but you also want a good flow rate, you might want adjustable flow rate but you also dont want a "strong" pump that puts too much heat in your water

http://martinsliquidlab.org/ <
don't buy something without looking for a review on there smile.gif Martin is as thorough as it gets thumb.gif
  
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post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by INCREDIBLEHULK View Post

Don't just settle smile.gif Ask yourself , why do I want this block or why do I not want that block.
The more time you spend searching about the blocks the less time you will possibly spend later regretting about not getting the proper block.

Trust me, I spent $200+ on my xspc kit.. and now I spent $560 on "upgrading it" this time i spent about 10days before actually buying all the parts.
(seeing as my UV tubing is out of stock, im not questioning if I should build my new loop, or even buy a new case.. im just trying to finalize my build, the worst thing is side grades... what do i do with my $200 kit and $300 case after i buy new one smile.gif )

I'm sure you'll be fine, don't jump the gun, if you were going to order it today, sit back and don't, do more research, same as tomorrow.

(another user mentioned the mcp35x sure its good pump don't forget to check out Koolance PMP-450S wink.gif .. the mcp35x has like 2.x feet of pressure more than a d5 pump and has 30+ gallons less flow rate so its not safe to say its "better" )

http://www.frozencpu.com/images/awards/pumpchartpdf.pdf -> good for a quick reference, you want enough pressure to get through all your components and fittings and tubing, but you also want a good flow rate, you might want adjustable flow rate but you also dont want a "strong" pump that puts too much heat in your water

http://martinsliquidlab.org/ <
don't buy something without looking for a review on there smile.gif Martin is as thorough as it gets thumb.gif[/quotehow]. Thanks for all of your help Hulk I have done research regarding the Apogee HD and Koolance 380I. While the koolance Is a bit more expensive they are fairly close in Performance. I want to go with the Apogee HD for three reasons: 1 Martins Lab gave It a good review 2 A buddy of mine had it on his 3770K and it stays very cool. 3 Pricecand looks at 59.99 I think this is a great deal for a great performer.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by nleksan View Post

The Apogee HD is a great block, one of the best when it comes to performance, and the best in terms of mounting systems (it's impossible to mess up, and difficult to NOT get a good mount!).

The MCP35X is more powerful than the D5 and will cost less as you don't need to get an aftermarket top or mod kit, the top it comes with is essentially an aftermarket top designed by Swiftech and I havennot seen any other tops perform as well. It's PWM so it will automatically adjust it's speed.
I do recommend spending the $13 on the MCP35X heatsink, as it will greatly prolong the life of the unit. An 80x15mm fan is also recommended for attaching to the heatsink, dropping temps even more, but if you are going to have a fan blowing directly across the heatsink anyway you don't have to buy a separate one.
What is this heat sink you speak of?
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by PCBuilder94 View Post

What is this heat sink you speak of?

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13221/ex-pmp-138/Swiftech_MCP35X-HS_Pump_Heatsink_-_Laing_DDC-1T1TPlus_MCP-35035535X.html

would be what hes referring to, you can search google for mcp35x heatsinks.


Remember this $15 addition to your water pump will require a fan, so for a final price compare this with other superior pumps that don't require hsf.
  
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post #26 of 26
Actually it doesn't require a fan, in fact just the heatsink drops temps 30+ degrees. Adding a fan is only for when the pump is located in an area with no airflow.

The D5 is indeed a good pump, but a lot of people forget that the high flow rating drops quickly with every bit of restriction in the loop, which means that the MCP35X will flow more water once this restriction point has been reached. It's the same as fans P-Q curve.

The DDC pumps, unlike the D5, are air cooled which means they add no real heat to the loop, while D5's are water cooled and actuallyadd 20-30W of heat.

Lastly, the MMCP35X + Heatsink is nowhere near as expensive as a D5 + Custom Top + Mod Kit....
   
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2x MCP35X + Heatsinks/80x15mm Fan XSPC EX420 Alphacool NeXXos UT60 240 6x Bgears Blasters 140mm 1800rpm Fans 
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