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Originally Posted by NoiseTemper View Post

lachen.gif You can't "shutdown the entire internet". You'd have to shutdown every server/exchange/node etc. in the world, which is not even remotely possible.
I'm sure Al Gore could do it.
post #12 of 36
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Nearly knocking out a single service with a large scale DDoS is nowhere near the same as knocking out the internet as a whole. Not even remotely. These exchanges aren't just "a few dozen" 100gbps switches, they're more like thousands, in a single center. The data centers that run these large exchanges for the highest level of internet traffic like that, are able to process traffic in the realm of multiple tbps, and while 300gbps probably did manage to congest it a little bit, the chance of it actually causing a full blowout of the target facility was probably fairly low.

All these ddos attacks are is annoying. Nothing more.

Just for information purpose wise, the Amsterdam Internet Exchange can handle up to 8259 Gb/s of traffic, normal daily traffics sits at about 2100Gb/s. Just taking down the internet would be just impossible if you ask to take down the internet.

sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_exchange_point
https://www.ams-ix.net/
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post #14 of 36
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lachen.gif You can't "shutdown the entire internet". You'd have to shutdown every server/exchange/node etc. in the world, which is not even remotely possible.

You can with an EMP tongue.gif
post #15 of 36
Actually, http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/03/that-internet-war-apocalypse-is-a-lie/

This is fear-mongering nonsense. The purpose of the DDoS wasn't to break the internet. It's simply a feud between a hosting company and an anti-spam organisation who offer intel on untrusted/spam traffic (via IP blacklists).

Here's some more extra reading to give you some perspective. http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/dutch-isp-hits-spamhaus-with-police-complaints-42302. This has been an ongoing story.

This article doesn't mention who initiated this attack. It was CyberBunker, they have beef with Spamhaus, as do hundreds of other hosting companies. Spamhaus have plenty of enemies.

Spamhaus has long been known for over the top precautions when it comes to blacklisting IPs. The company I work for has had tons of trouble with them. They'll blacklist you simply because your servers are in the same datacenter as another server that has been caught spamming. They'll often ban entire IP ranges when a single IP has been flagged.

Getting your IP in a Spamhaus blacklist is a huge problem for hosting companies, especially when it's not your (or a customer of your's) fault. Spamhaus have the power to shut down entire datacenters and even ISPs if they deem them to be illegitimate, as was the case here. Cyberbunker. This wouldn't be such an issue if people didn't trust Spamhaus so much with their blacklists, but almost every web and email server does.

Our company hasn't used Spamhaus for years. We take a more effective, fine-grained approach to verifying and filtering traffic.
post #16 of 36
Coming from someone who works at an ISP has worked in data centres POPS, exchanges and internet exchange points.

There is a truck load of misinformation and misleading in that article and indeed this thread.
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OP read the entire article lol...... It wasnt anywhere near shutting it down
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Originally Posted by NoiseTemper View Post

lachen.gif You can't "shutdown the entire internet". You'd have to shutdown every server/exchange/node etc. in the world, which is not even remotely possible.

ohhh I wouldn't say that on the internet, i wouldn't want to tempt people to try it.

Don't forget, the traffic has to go somewhere. Blow that place(s) up with a bomb. KABOOOOMY

Will that do it? I'm sure it will kill / shutdown the internet thumb.gif

and no I'm not a terrorist.
post #19 of 36
I really doubt any single group can successfully bring down the Internet. Think of all the DNS servers that are out there. Well over 10 million I believe. I do think that Internet users should be more informed about the way the Internet works so that they know to simply change their DNS settings if their DNS servers did happen to go down one day. I personally do use OpenDNS or even Google's DNS as there is a difference in terms of speed (milliseconds mind you).
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We had an article posted on OCN some time ago about what it actually WOULD take to shut down the internet. It was (as you all know) a LOT.
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