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Because of the trend of DDR3 memory prices going up i'm looking to get a nice 16GB kit for myself for the future rig upgrade. I'm currently using a Mushkin kit which has been flawless but I split it between the wifes computer and mine, and I'd like to give her the rest of the kit.
Unless I win the "Dream Computer" competition I'll be going with a 8320 or the future Piledriver processor (I have the water cooling system for AMD, and really hate to spend more $$$ on a new water block for Intel...)

My question is this: Are all the 2x8gb G.Skill TridentX kits based on Samsung IC? I'm trying to figure out the "best" kit from their 2x8gb TridentX lineup that's available on Newegg but I'm not sure if the scaling on their memory timings means that they have two different IC sets or if they just use Samsung IC and they just scale the way they do. (by scaling, I mean the 1600 kit is 7-8-8-24, the 1866 kit is 8-9-9-24, but when it shoots up to 2133 it's 9-11-11-31, and the 2400 kit is 10-12-12-31 so it's not a linear scaling on the 1st vs 2nd & 3rd timing).

I know that it's not going to be a noticeable difference except in benchmarks but I'd like to be sure I make a good choice on getting a quality kit that I can OC with.

Thanks for any info!

(Also, the 4 kits I'm comparing are in this link: G.Skill TridentX Comparison
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post #2 of 8
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Originally Posted by iamwardicus View Post

My question is this: Are all the 2x8gb G.Skill TridentX kits based on Samsung IC?
Unless things have changed in the past month (very unlikely), all TridentX models you've mentioned (1600C7, 1866C8, 2133C9, 2400C10) should have the same ICs and hence easily do each other's specs.
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That is what I wanted to double check on Sam OCX - thank you! I didn't see much point in spending extra money on tighter timings unless G.Skill does extra bin testing or something on the 1600 sticks. 1866 sticks for me it is. smile.gif
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GSkill makes excellent memory, and both the Ripjaws Z and Trident X kits are some of the absolute best memory you can buy. Mushkin is also very good, and if you can find them, some kits they make are geared towards the tighter timings that AMD seems to prefer (1600 7-8-7-24 for example).

Regarding speed, the higher the better when it comes to gaming, at least with Intel. I have not yet tested any AMD processors (have a 960T that I'll be testing at some point), but I have been running extensive tests regarding the relationship between memory speed and gaming performance and have found that the higher your memory speed, the higher your minimum framerate will be; have yet to see a single game NOT benefit. The difference between 1600 7-8-7-24 and 2133 9-10-10-26 is on the order of 4-13 frames per second gain in minimum fps, which results in a very noticeable increase in smoothness and decrease or even elimination of stuttering/slowdown.
I don't know if this holds true for AMD, but I see no reason it wouldn't. Consequently, I would recommend getting DDR3-2133 over 1600 without reservation.
   
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I snagged the 2400 10-12-12-31 kit, and I will just underclock it with tighter timings until I get wife approval for a new CPU & motherboard... I really don't want to upgrade mine until Piledriver comes out honestly, but we'll see how things go. I also grabbed the 128gb Samsung 840 SSD with that 20% off code so I'll have 16gb ram again, a SSD, and hopefully a bit of new life in my PC. thumb.gif If by chance I get just stupid lucky and get a dream computer from the OCN contest I'll have RAM already for it. Really the reason I want to get RAM is that pricing is going up and I'd rather have a little more around than not enough.

Thanks to all for the info!
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fyi piledriver came out long ago in September 2012 , are you living in past... hahaha... please don't mind.
    
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I snagged the 2400 10-12-12-31 kit, and I will just underclock it with tighter timings until I get wife approval for a new CPU & motherboard... I really don't want to upgrade mine until Piledriver comes out honestly, but we'll see how things go. I also grabbed the 128gb Samsung 840 SSD with that 20% off code so I'll have 16gb ram again, a SSD, and hopefully a bit of new life in my PC. thumb.gif If by chance I get just stupid lucky and get a dream computer from the OCN contest I'll have RAM already for it. Really the reason I want to get RAM is that pricing is going up and I'd rather have a little more around than not enough.

Thanks to all for the info!

great choice. any luck underclocking? i cant seem to do mine although i admit new to memory ocing.
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great choice. any luck underclocking? i cant seem to do mine although i admit new to memory ocing.

Not yet - the package should arrive on Monday I hope.... so a fresh Windows 8 install and a new time spent overclocking my processor and new ram... fun fun... :-p

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Originally Posted by sanket779292 View Post

fyi piledriver came out long ago in September 2012 , are you living in past... hahaha... please don't mind.

I meant Steamroller... sorry, it's been a bit of a long day :-p
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