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TBH intel should just start offering chips with no IHS. Just add a shim for safety and it should be fine.
I suspect that they may have just done this to gimp Ivy bridge and make SB-E seem better than it is.
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I suspect that they may have just done this to gimp Ivy bridge and make SB-E seem better than it is.

That's not possible as SB-E is a waste. Maybe if intel had some balls and released some unlocked 8 core chips then the platform would be worth it.

What is exactly "Extreme" about a locked quad and a pair of hex cores intel?
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I suspect that they may have just done this to gimp Ivy bridge and make SB-E seem better than it is.

I suspect they just thought they could get away with cheap TIM due to the 77W TDP, not considering that the smaller die made heat output more concentrated and harder to dissipate or that the Tri-gate Transistor were leaky at high voltage in their first implementation.
Edited by sherlock - 3/29/13 at 7:34am
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I suspect they just thought they could get away with cheap TIM due to the 77W TDP, not considering that the smaller die made heat output more concentrated and harder to dissipate.

if Intel played it right they could have get away with the cheap TIM. IIRC just the process of delidding and putting the IHS back without cleaning the TIM gave at least 10C difference. i bet that if Intel would have done the glue thing between the CPU PCB and the IHS a bit thinner so that there wouldn't be a gap( which reeks havoc) at least have of the delliders might have reconsidered their choice if it is only for >10C difference.

(but all of that is being said in hindsight so it is pretty much worthless biggrin.gif )
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Holy crap... I suddenly feel like I've been lied to my entire life.....
I dropped almost 25C! thumb.gif
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I suspect they just thought they could get away with cheap TIM due to the 77W TDP, not considering that the smaller die made heat output more concentrated and harder to dissipate or that the Tri-gate Transistor were leaky at high voltage in their first implementation.
but the majority of the problem wasn't cheap TIM, it was the gap between the die and the IHS. They could have easily fixed this, but they never did.
Edited by Art Vanelay - 3/29/13 at 7:53am
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but the majority of the problem wasn't cheap TIM, it was the gap between the die and the IHS. They could have easily fixed this, but they never did.

That hardly suggests they are trying to gimp IB to make SB-E look better, just means they didn't want to spend the money when it was "good enough". This is very likely not a person throwing the IHS down on the PCB, you're talking about re-calibrating a lot of very precise and very expensive machines, when the process has been thoroughly tuned to create x product with maximum yield. Sure the change in the amount of glue the gun was supposed to shoot might not be a hard one, but the confidence in the process is shot, and you now need to fully retest the entire process to ensure your new process will maintain yields. This would cost a *lot* of money.
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I would love to De-lid my 3770K,but I'm sure I would fall into the 30% of unlucky schlubbs who destroy their very expensive CPU. Why would Intel do this to us? It is really not fair.But Big a up to EK for making this cooler.
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Holy crap... I suddenly feel like I've been lied to my entire life.....
I dropped almost 25C! thumb.gif

*cries* And imagine it under water.... IMAGINE THE BEAUTY!!!!!!
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*cries* And imagine it under water.... IMAGINE THE BEAUTY!!!!!!

Yea, this is making me cry about my H220 a little bit for the first time. I'm not sure I want to put a IHS less CPU directly under a pump with all those vibrations frown.gif
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