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That's not possible as SB-E is a waste. Maybe if intel had some balls and released some unlocked 8 core chips then the platform would be worth it.

What is exactly "Extreme" about a locked quad and a pair of hex cores intel?
You are really absolutely right. I was very close to doing a 2011 build ,but it just didn't seem worth it. I mean ,even if the 3820 ,had been un-lockable,I would have dove into it.
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That hardly suggests they are trying to gimp IB to make SB-E look better, just means they didn't want to spend the money when it was "good enough". This is very likely not a person throwing the IHS down on the PCB, you're talking about re-calibrating a lot of very precise and very expensive machines, when the process has been thoroughly tuned to create x product with maximum yield. Sure the change in the amount of glue the gun was supposed to shoot might not be a hard one, but the confidence in the process is shot, and you now need to fully retest the entire process to ensure your new process will maintain yields. This would cost a *lot* of money.
They also could have just sold them with the IHS not glued on. That would have been nice.
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Good move EK! Now I really can't wait to strip Ivy naked and try this cooler. applaud.gif
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They also could have just sold them with the IHS not glued on. That would have been nice.

I hope you mean soldered on, and not just not connected. That would have been a nightmare for them, on top of the fact that it would still be changing the process.. which is the root problem of all statements you're making. Even a simple change in the process, will cost them tons of money to validate the new process. They aren't going to ship something that has a high likelihood of breaking in transit and causing them to eat a ton of losses in DOA returns.
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I hope you mean soldered on, and not just not connected. That would have been a nightmare for them, on top of the fact that it would still be changing the process.. which is the root problem of all statements you're making. Even a simple change in the process, will cost them tons of money to validate the new process. They aren't going to ship something that has a high likelihood of breaking in transit and causing them to eat a ton of losses in DOA returns.
How high is the actual likelihood that the chip will be killed without the IHS on during shipping? The CPU itself weighs almost nothing, and if it's packed properly, the die wouldn't have the possibility of being smashed against something.

Also, how much money would it actually cost them to ship a batch of CPUs that haven't had their IHS soldered on? It can't cost that much to just skip a step in the process.
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How high is the actual likelihood that the chip will be killed without the IHS on during shipping? The CPU itself weighs almost nothing, and if it's packed properly, the die wouldn't have the possibility of being smashed against something.

Also, how much money would it actually cost them to ship a batch of CPUs that haven't had their IHS soldered on? It can't cost that much to just skip a step in the process.

Lower than the chance of s.462 CPUs being killed on shipping, tongue.gif

Those had both pins AND a die that could go wrong, thumb.gif
   
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It's kind of always been curious to me that cpu's aren't sold to a company like EVGA, or in the cooling games case, Corsair, NZXT, etc... And they would sell the chip with some custom cooling solution. The same way Nvidia and ATI sell their reference cards to EVGA and such and they do with them as they please (I don't know exactly how it works obviously.)

But it still poses the question that a company could de-lid and develop their own cooling for a CPU, and sell that to the public.
    
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don't forget market research, advertising(explaining to people the risks of using one)

i seriously think if they did offer delidded chips they wouldn't come with any kind of warranty other than a 30 day manufacturing defect warranty, the die is just too fragile to really back up with anything else

Huh? AMD didn't have any kind of IHS for yeas and years and the die was much smaller. Multicore i7s offer a huge base to slap on a HS directly onto the die. Stick some pads on the PCB as a shim and be done with it. The first time I heard of delidding and I thought it was an actual delid, like removing the whole IHS instead of just replacing the TIM.
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Huh? AMD didn't have any kind of IHS for yeas and years and the die was much smaller. Multicore i7s offer a huge base to slap on a HS directly onto the die. Stick some pads on the PCB as a shim and be done with it. The first time I heard of delidding and I thought it was an actual delid, like removing the whole IHS instead of just replacing the TIM.
I agree, they should be called relidded. My 3770 K runs commando and has since I first got it last April. thumb.gif
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*cries* And imagine it under water.... IMAGINE THE BEAUTY!!!!!!

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