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So the AMD FX-6300 better than the i3?

Depends on the software.

If overclocking, almost always yes.
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post #22 of 36
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Originally Posted by LuckySe7ens View Post

Depends on the software.

If overclocking, almost always yes.

This, but than you have to consider cooling, which you did in that same build. And you are totally right about the SSD, but you could easily add one in later. thumb.gif
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($128.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Apex SK-393-C ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.48 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($53.76 @ DirectCanada)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $576.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Ok, managed to get a SSD in there.

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/MQQ0
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/MQQ0/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/MQQ0/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($67.50 @ DirectCanada)
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Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($74.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($128.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Canada Computers)
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post #25 of 36
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Is an SSD necessary? It may not be a fair comparison, but I have Windows 7 on an SSD and Arch Linux on a HDD and they seem equally fast and responsive.

Games also load fairly quickly from my HDD.
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post #26 of 36
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Originally Posted by spooky655 View Post

Is an SSD necessary? It may not be a fair comparison, but I have Windows 7 on an SSD and Arch Linux on a HDD and they seem equally fast and responsive.

Games also load fairly quickly from my HDD.

It's just because Linux is fast and Windows is slow and bloated (esp. if you run Antivirus that protects against rootkits and low level malware)

My single core AMD machine using a PATA Seagate Barracuda and XFCE on stripped down Debian Linux runs as fast as Win 7 64 bit on i3 1st gen+840 Pro or i5@4.6Ghz+ 830 SSD.
Edited by AlphaC - 3/28/13 at 2:11pm
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post #27 of 36
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Okay.

What processor is "good enough" for general Windows 7 use? I can cut off at that point.

What would be great is if I could get a 560 Ti for $150 - it was recently $160 at Memory Express. I know it get almost double the fps that reviewers are reporting for the 7790.

I want the silverstone case ($100) and the SeaSonic power supply ($60) for sure.

After these are met, I guess I could consider an SSD.
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post #28 of 36
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Originally Posted by spooky655 View Post

Okay.

What processor is "good enough" for general Windows 7 use? I can cut off at that point.

What would be great is if I could get a 560 Ti for $150 - it was recently $160 at Memory Express. I know it get almost double the fps that reviewers are reporting for the 7790.

I want the silverstone case ($100) and the SeaSonic power supply ($60) for sure.

After these are met, I guess I could consider an SSD.

So we went from a no GPU non graphics intensive rig to one where the GPU is ~ 1/4 the budget? biggrin.gif
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post #29 of 36
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Everyone's suggestions have made me reconsider things:D If I don't need an i5 and money is saved on the mobo and RAM. then I will consider spending it on a graphics card. I am trying to find the best build for an average family who might play multiplayer games and carry out tasks such as video editing.
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post #30 of 36
PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/MTsr
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/MTsr/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/MTsr/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($67.50 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $602.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-28 19:50 EDT-0400)

You could drop the SSD and upgrade to a $200 GPU. The 660 is what I used as an example, but you could also go with a 7870. You would have longer boot times, but significant graphics increases... and WoW is somewhat demanding @ 1080p with all the settings maxed.
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