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Probably a 3. It's possible to screw up, but you'd probably have to go out of your way to do that.

EDIT: Read your scale. It would be a 7.

Maybe include what wood and hammer was used in a "Notes" section. Mine was 1/2" pine wood with a 16 oz regular claw hammer.

Will add a notes section. looking forward to your direct die system!

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People fear what they don't understand.

I agree.
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I have to ask again since noone has helped me understand...

Is the shock that is transferred to the PCB considered ok to you guys? To me this is like dropping a 3770k off the third story and having the "IHS" come off but because you put some wood on the floor it didnt break it...

im trying to understand how and why people are actually doing this, do intel chips have a certain SHOCK RESISTANCE or are you guys hoping that in a few months the chip doesn't randomly die?

If any of you could pm me or just reply I'd appreciate it....

(for some reason I feel using a blade properly and not scratching the PCB does alot less damage than 20-50lbs of force being directed to a small chips pcb)

Is there anything mechanical inside the CPU? Otherwise I don't see shock really doing anything to harm it (while the razor can cut into the PCB and hit copper).

I've done both methods, my first try with the razor killed it, it worked flawlessly with this method. All I'm waiting on is the better paste and maybe I can get 4.8 or higher on this thing.
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Is there anything mechanical inside the CPU? Otherwise I don't see shock really doing anything to harm it (while the razor can cut into the PCB and hit copper).

I've done both methods, my first try with the razor killed it, it worked flawlessly with this method. All I'm waiting on is the better paste and maybe I can get 4.8 or higher on this thing.

Add some pics so I can put you on the spread sheet!
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There's 10 or 12 metal layers on top of the silicon. You'd have to shock the hell out of them to get them to move though.
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People fear what they don't understand.
I'd rather have fear then be ignorant smile.gif
That is why im asking the question yet to see if anyone has some factual information or if they are just hitting the pcb of a $300 chip with a hammer against wood block because someone else did

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Is there anything mechanical inside the CPU? Otherwise I don't see shock really doing anything to harm it (while the razor can cut into the PCB and hit copper).

I've done both methods, my first try with the razor killed it, it worked flawlessly with this method. All I'm waiting on is the better paste and maybe I can get 4.8 or higher on this thing.

thank you for taking the time to explain this

mechanical parts no, i was more worried about the pins taking a major shift due to the damage from impact which might lead to problems further down the road
  
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Heh, first time I inserted an LGA chip I was like, "wow, these pins are really fine! I can barely feel them!"

Turns out LGA stands for land grid array – the pins are in the socket. The chip only has lands. thumb.gif
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The nice thing about a mechanical process like hitting something with a hammer is you'll pretty easily know whether you messed something up. It's not like overvolting where degradation is slow and unpredictable. If you short something together through tremendous shock, you'll realize it quickly.
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Heh, first time I inserted an LGA chip I was like, "wow, these pins are really fine! I can barely feel them!"

Turns out LGA stands for land grid array – the pins are in the socket. The chip only has lands. thumb.gif

doesn't that make it just as bad?
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The nice thing about a mechanical process like hitting something with a hammer is you'll pretty easily know whether you messed something up. It's not like overvolting where degradation is slow and unpredictable. If you short something together through tremendous shock, you'll realize it quickly.
definitely agree, but seeing as this post is 5 days old, i don't want to join in and then 2weeks-2months later everyone who posted in this thread regrets doing this smile.gif


trust me, i prefer to research and know what im doing before doing it, i read then posted but was starting to assume people were just hitting chips with hammers and didn't know the pro's and con's


best of luck to you all thumb.gif

(im curious if the people who used razer used a regular razer or a double edged razor like this)
  
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I like this method more.
 
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doesn't that make it just as bad?
definitely agree, but seeing as this post is 5 days old, i don't want to join in and then 2weeks-2months later everyone who posted in this thread regrets doing this smile.gif


trust me, i prefer to research and know what im doing before doing it, i read then posted but was starting to assume people were just hitting chips with hammers and didn't know the pro's and con's


best of luck to you all thumb.gif

(im curious if the people who used razer used a regular razer or a double edged razor like this)

...ahem, I used the double-edged razor - unfortunately - per pic below... mad.gif

...one key item is no matter what blade, never let the edges of the razor near the pcb, just the center...the edges catching is what causes many of the scratches / lane cuts on the pcb

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