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I was worried at fist too. I would say just do it.
Also was testing it on a P4 which had solder instead of paste. I hit that like 8 times because i though it was using paste. For sure the CPU would have been damaged. the IHS came off and no physical damage. Still works. Compare to that 3770K was 2 light taps and 1 medium tap and it came off. By the 3rd hit i did not expect it to come off because i was using so little power.
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I'm reading your guys posts and my 3770k is in the mail and i keep thinking of this example, you take a hammer, put a wood block against your tooth, and hit the wood block, that transfer of energy is not going to stop anywhere at just the wood block.. how much force can the PCB handle?

That's not exactly a fair analogy.

You need to think of it as more of a chain with a weak link. The glue is the weak link in the chain. If every chain in the link is made of steel, except for one made of paper, the paper one will shear long before any damage comes to any of the steel links.

I'm sure there are better examples, but do you see what I mean?

The PCB can more than handle some light taps from the hammer, since the wood distributes it evenly across it. The glue however, can't.
PCB's are a lot stronger than I think you realize. Don't go ape fecal matter on it, but just use common sense.

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I'd rather have fear then be ignorant smile.gif

The cause of fear is often ignorance--people fear what they do not understand.

Please don't take that as a dig at you, I simply mean that it is human nature to be afraid of the unknown. And I do understand the hesitance--if something happens you are out of a couple hundred dollars!
Just don't attempt it if you can't get by in the case the chip does get broken. But it does seem pretty safe from people's experiences.
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Attempted it tonight...a few times...the sucker just won't budge or my vice has too much vibration...or I just suck at my attempt. I may need to have it propped up against a wall.
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Add some pics so I can put you on the spread sheet!

I already have it in my motherboard lol! As soon as I did it, I rushed to get it in biggrin.gif But when my CL Pro gets here this week I'll take some pics of it all neked!

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That's not exactly a fair analogy.

You need to think of it as more of a chain with a weak link. The glue is the weak link in the chain. If every chain in the link is made of steel, except for one made of paper, the paper one will shear long before any damage comes to any of the steel links.

I'm sure there are better examples, but do you see what I mean?

Another example may be like in a water loop for a PC. If you have a fitting that isn't on tight enough, the water will leak there first. In this case the first thing to go would be the solder.
Edited by Shogon - 4/2/13 at 10:31pm
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thanks Bonzai

No offense taken , i appreciate you responding smile.gif

Just so you know, my fear was not from ignorance, it was from the lack of information given when asked a question. i know what you are trying to say though.. just want you to know why i had fear also biggrin.gif

Of course I don't expect everyone to respond but I figured with only a few people doing it they would share the facts behind the process. Your analogy helped me understand, i guess i'll need to get over the fear and try not hulk smash my chip biggrin.gif
i too have a 3770k in the mail, i'll be running it regular for a while to see what it OC's and its temps before i think about a delidd
  
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Attempted it tonight...a few times...the sucker just won't budge or my vice has too much vibration...or I just suck at my attempt. I may need to have it propped up against a wall.

I think you should try aligning the piece of wood a little different. That + vibration seemed to be the problem. (Don't quote me though, I have not tried this method)

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may need to have it propped up against a wall.

This. Your vice is absorbing all the energy. Mine is bolted to a welded steel bench with a 10mm (3/8") solid steel top weighing about 80kg (200poundish). Before I even read your comment I thought the easiest thing to do is back the vice up against the wall.
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This. Your vice is absorbing all the energy. Mine is bolted to a welded steel bench with a 10mm (3/8") solid steel top weighing about 80kg (200poundish). Before I even read your comment I thought the easiest thing to do is back the vice up against the wall.

that's the suction cup vise on a swivel neck thing... take that back for a refund and get a real vise.
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thanks Bonzai

No offense taken , i appreciate you responding smile.gif

Just so you know, my fear was not from ignorance, it was from the lack of information given when asked a question. i know what you are trying to say though.. just want you to know why i had fear also biggrin.gif

Of course I don't expect everyone to respond but I figured with only a few people doing it they would share the facts behind the process. Your analogy helped me understand, i guess i'll need to get over the fear and try not hulk smash my chip biggrin.gif
i too have a 3770k in the mail, i'll be running it regular for a while to see what it OC's and its temps before i think about a delidd

I'm glad you didn't take it the wrong way smile.gif

I know what you mean, it's always nice to have the most information available, I just think you're over complicating it a bit that's all.

And what others have said, that vice doesn't look all that sturdy!

It's generally better to get a vice that can be bolted down to a sturdy table or workstation. You don't want the vice budging or moving at all really.

But if it's not possible then just try to brace the vice like others have said, against a wall or something.
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Attempted it tonight...a few times...the sucker just won't budge or my vice has too much vibration...or I just suck at my attempt. I may need to have it propped up against a wall.

This is what I was saying a couple pages back. This is an awesome method and all but if you don't have a good heavy vice with sharp corners on its jaws, you will have some trouble. I ran into an issue with 5 different vice's that wouldn't bite down on my test chip because all the jaws were worn and rounded off. So it should be noted in the OP...

Vice Requirements
- sharp (non rounded-off) jaws
- well anchored. (suction and clamp style should be avoided)
- heavier the vice/mounting surface the better. Probably wouldn't want to mount a vice to a card table to do this wink.gif
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