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Last few pics I have seen here, you guys are using a ton of CLU. If you have bubbles on the die you can just stain the underside of the IHS or not use any there. If your temps are not what you want, you will have to try using less and see how it works. No two IHS are the same, so the exact amount of CLU to optimize temps will not be universal. You have to test and see, but the last two pics show a lot more than I think is necessary.
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I just put down a BB size and brushed it until I was starting to see the bristle marks. A few pinhole sized blobs on the surface, but I'm sure the waterblock smooshed it out.
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Yeah I barely put any on or so I thought, that stuff really goes a long way. I guess my ihs liked it though as I dropped 23 degrees.
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I am so sad right now. I ordered from Coollaboratory my CLP and for some reason in the address they shipped it to my Apartment # was not included. I checked my profile in their account and for some reason i had 2 addresses one with my Apt # one without. The funny thing was that the one with Apt # was primary. This is clearly their system fault. I hope they sent it again. Wither way i waisted almost 2 weeks waiting and i want it so bad to lower these temps.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3784/thr-26/Coollaboratory_Liquid_PRO_Thermal_Interface_Material.html

if you order it there you should be able to get it 2-3 days smile.gif
  
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So I made a video. First youtube video ever! I think it's notable for its simultaneous use of natural and artificial lighting, mesmerizing use of jump cuts, and the way it showcases my natural flair for composition. Clearly, I should direct movies. I left it a little longer for instructional purposes.

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What we see, first, is that I live in a man-cave apartment. The vice is attached to the counter of my kitchen/dining alcove. Since the vice is older and has chipped lips, I put some masking tape on them to smooth them out. At first I tried to hammer away from the counter, so that the die would fall on the carpet if it did fall, but the vice would move, dissipating the energy. Next I hammered towards the counter, however the chip wasn't in tightly enough. It's hard to see, but the jaws of the vice actually moved 5mm closer to each other from the force of the hammer stroke that popped the chip out. Making it nice and tight did the trick.

The scariest part came after I cleaned the glue. I kind of dropped the IHS onto the die, the impact making a *tink* noise. I actually think I chipped a tiny tiny fragment off one side. The indentation in the IHS is not as deep as the die is high.

Clock-for-clock and volt-for-volt, it's a 20-25C reduction, but that's well documented already. In real-world terms I went from 4.6GHz and 1.332V at 95C max to 4.8GHz and 1.392V at 90C max during stability testing in Aida64. Actual use temps are about 10-15C lower then their respective maximums, naturally.

All in all, a smashing success, pun intended. Props to fnarfbargle for coming up with this thumb.gif Now if I could only figure out how to edit my sig...

EDIT: Figured the sig out. And I used CLU on die, PK1 on top. biggrin.gif

Awesome! thanks for the detailed response Will add your video to the OP!!

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As requested, here are some pics of my delidded i5-3570k using the vice method...
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Took longer to get to the garage than I spent in it... This is a fantastic idea. I'm not sure if it was mentioned or not, but I would recommend placing the cpu in the vice so that the two little tabs/ears on the lid are resting on top of the jaws. This places the core(under the lid) parallel to the vice jaws. This way, when the lid starts to come loose and shift, it has more room to do so before hitting the core. Not that you should be hitting it THAT hard anyway...

Added to the spreadsheet!
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If I could get in the club that would be great. I forgot about a picture with a hammer or vise but rest assured I didn't use any sharp objects. snip (Click to show)





Thanks for the pictures Added to the spread sheet!


Dont for get guys to go to the delidded club and sign up!
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I'm kind of tempted to do this. My temps are bad and I don't think they are going to improve without delidding.

Has anyone failed and killed a chip using this method yet?
     
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I'm kind of tempted to do this. My temps are bad and I don't think they are going to improve without delidding.

Has anyone failed and killed a chip using this method yet?
Nope. Don't be the first one. wink.gif

There have been some problems with getting the IHS to actually pop off, but these have all been resolved by using a proper vise and/or tightening it good enough, so that the actual force is properly transmitted to the adhesive, and not absorbed by other things.
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Please don't be the first to eff up our 100% success rate thumb.gif

Don't worry too much though. I had my chip fly out and land on concrete 2 feet away. And I chipped the edge of the PCB (a mm of the solder mask it seems). Still worked, so they can take some abuse. (This was when I was doing it without a vise).
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How hard is the TIM that's already on the IHS? Is it hard enough to damage the die. Also is everything alright with being beaten with a hammer? I know the wood spreads the force out along the length of the chip, but will the shock of the hammer not damage anything itself?

Another question, is there one particular orientation that's best? I mean like is it best to have the longest part of the die parallel to the jaws of the vice, or perpendicular? Now for my last question; would there be an improvement in temps if I just used something like MX-4 for now? I don't have any CLU or CLP.

(Lots of questions I know, but I've got to gather information if I'm going to delid tongue.gif )
     
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As requested, here are some pics of my delidded i5-3570k using the vice method...

Took longer to get to the garage than I spent in it... This is a fantastic idea. I'm not sure if it was mentioned or not, but I would recommend placing the cpu in the vice so that the two little tabs/ears on the lid are resting on top of the jaws. This places the core(under the lid) parallel to the vice jaws. This way, when the lid starts to come loose and shift, it has more room to do so before hitting the core. Not that you should be hitting it THAT hard anyway...

yea - I agree. clamp it in with the long axis of the die perpendicular to the strike direction. this way if you hit a home run, it's a long(er) way to the wall !wink.gif
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