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I've been getting a lot more into video encoding (especially with my new GoPro Hero3 Black). The Vortex does well, but I'm thinking I could building something that will do much better.

It'll take the place of this current rig which I'll pass on to the next family member (just like The Beast).

The only thing I've been holding out for is the release of Haswell. I want to see just exactly what its OC capabilities are and if it's worth the jump from Sandy Bridge, skipping Ivy, and going straight to Haswell.

A secondary deciding factor has been the GPU setup. I'm indecisive between AMD and Nvidia right now (normally I'd go for the former), and wondering if I should wait longer for the next generation of GPUs.

This will be my first full-loop watercooled build that I keep for myself, so recommendations for a good case that allows plenty of space, good cable management, and supports watercooling are welcomed.

What I have right now is fine (though I'm actually having issues playing Crysis 3, I have to play on medium for the game to be playable, which definitely shouldn't be). Considering I'm only on air cooling there's only so far I can push this rig. In fact, I can't OC my cards at all without excessive heat build-up.
post #2 of 22
Well I just went from a 2500K to 3770K, and the difference is minimal for me, can't say I really notice much except a few extra frames in games that like CPU power.
So unless you want to go for something like the 3930k (which would also bring only a minimal performance bump), I would say keep it until next generation of CPU's.

When it comes down to GPU's its a lot of personal taste, and they are both doing very good right now as AMD has catched up a bit with drivers.
But still, I would say Nvidia is better when it comes to the driver side and are usually much quicker of getting updates out for new games.
Also when it comes to microstuttering Nvidia is much better, but if you are not bothered by it, it should not mean anything to you. I am very sensitive to it, and I must say through my 50+ GPU's from both sides, Nvidia is the clear winner on this one. You can read the several reviews/articles on this if you don't believe me. AMD is working on a fix though, and it should come out sometime in the future (Don't think there is an ETA yet though).
But all in all, good cards on both sides!

Cases, I would say Corsair is pretty good all around, like the 600T, 800D and 900D to name a few, but as always cases are also very personal, and even though I like it, does not mean you do! There are other good brands out too, but my head is a little slow today redface.gif

When it comes to watercooling, just beware of one thing... It is very addicting and you will never go back once you are bitten by it! thumb.gif
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post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by go4life View Post

Well I just went from a 2500K to 3770K, and the difference is minimal for me, can't say I really notice much except a few extra frames in games that like CPU power.
So unless you want to go for something like the 3930k (which would also bring only a minimal performance bump), I would say keep it until next generation of CPU's.

When it comes down to GPU's its a lot of personal taste, and they are both doing very good right now as AMD has catched up a bit with drivers.
But still, I would say Nvidia is better when it comes to the driver side and are usually much quicker of getting updates out for new games.
Also when it comes to microstuttering Nvidia is much better, but if you are not bothered by it, it should not mean anything to you. I am very sensitive to it, and I must say through my 50+ GPU's from both sides, Nvidia is the clear winner on this one. You can read the several reviews/articles on this if you don't believe me. AMD is working on a fix though, and it should come out sometime in the future (Don't think there is an ETA yet though).
But all in all, good cards on both sides!

Cases, I would say Corsair is pretty good all around, like the 600T, 800D and 900D to name a few, but as always cases are also very personal, and even though I like it, does not mean you do! There are other good brands out too, but my head is a little slow today redface.gif

When it comes to watercooling, just beware of one thing... It is very addicting and you will never go back once you are bitten by it! thumb.gif

I appreciate the reply!! The differences with Sandy and Ivy, or rather that lack thereof, overall is what kept me from getting started on a powerful encoding build until the next gen. Haswell isn't looking that promising.

When it comes to memory, I do know that 1600MHz is the all-around accepted speed for real world usability, anything faster being purely for the sake of benching with minimal gains. Will Haswell be able to make more efficient use of 2133MHz+ RAM? With the apparent release of DIMM4 (which Haswell will apparently support), would it be worth waiting for that?

I've only had minimal micro-stuttering, and it only happens when I alt-tab back into the game after alt-tabbing out. So maybe I'm just one lucky SOB in that regard.

I though about Corsair cases, but I do like Phantoms as well. So many choices!!

I know what you mean about watercooling. I've built some systems in the past for others, but never one for myself. I just have to do it now!! thumb.gif
post #4 of 22
Your system is pretty nice, for what you want to do to it. Not sure how your crossfire 6970's are holding up, but you could always upgrade the GPU.

Best decision that is holding you back the most on your system is the cooling. Upgrade your cooling unit to a nicer AIO (Swiftech H220, Corsair H110, Corsair H100i, NZXT Kraken X60) and try overclocking that 2600k to 4.8-5.0GHz. Other than that, I really don't see too much improvements any time soon in upgrading the CPU; especially for what you're looking to do with your rig.
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Your system is pretty nice, for what you want to do to it. Not sure how your crossfire 6970's are holding up, but you could always upgrade the GPU.

Best decision that is holding you back the most on your system is the cooling. Upgrade your cooling unit to a nicer AIO (Swiftech H220, Corsair H110, Corsair H100i, NZXT Kraken X60) and try overclocking that 2600k to 4.8-5.0GHz. Other than that, I really don't see too much improvements any time soon in upgrading the CPU; especially for what you're looking to do with your rig.

That is another thing I was looking at. If the jump even with this newest generation isn't up to par, in terms of OC'ing. However, I have heard that Haswell will handle multi-GPU setups a lot better than Ivy or Sandy Bridge. They 6970s are doing okay, but honestly, I feel as if they are bottlenecking. I'm having trouble keeping WoW frame rates up with minimal multisampling. That game hasn't gone through a lot of graphical updates, so this computer should be able to max it out completely. On the other hand, I can max StarCraft at Ultimate just fine pulling in 50 to as high as 300fps in certain cases. It's a bit of a crapshoot I guess.
post #6 of 22
I may be somewhat unique in this opinion, but I don't believe Haswell is going to be much of an upgrade for you. You're already running quad core + hyper threading, have a strong overclock, and plenty of fast RAM. Haswell may, at best, give you 15-20% computational performance increase, and there's no guarantee it will be able to overclock as well as your existing 2600K.

The only way to get significantly more horsepower would be to move to a 6-core or 8-core + HT to give you more multi-threaded performance, and for that you'll need an X79 Sandy Bridge E or Ivy Bridge E CPU. Haswell has been predefined by Intel as their mainstream platform, and I haven't seen definitive proof that it will have more than 4 cores + HT.

Your Crisis 3 performance issues aren't CPU related, they're GPU related. The 6970x2 Crossfire is a decent setup, but Crysis 3 is going to require a little more horsepower to run smoothly on very high settings. I seem to remember that even with my pair of GTX 680 in SLI on a 3930K, Crysis 3 knocks one or two of the settings down a notch. With Tri-SLI, I could run everything on maxed out settings but it was too hot temperature wise for my tastes.

Greg
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I may be somewhat unique in this opinion, but I don't believe Haswell is going to be much of an upgrade for you. You're already running quad core + hyper threading, have a strong overclock, and plenty of fast RAM. Haswell may, at best, give you 15-20% computational performance increase, and there's no guarantee it will be able to overclock as well as your existing 2600K.

The only way to get significantly more horsepower would be to move to a 6-core or 8-core + HT to give you more multi-threaded performance, and for that you'll need an X79 Sandy Bridge E or Ivy Bridge E CPU. Haswell has been predefined by Intel as their mainstream platform, and I haven't seen definitive proof that it will have more than 4 cores + HT.

That. Gains going to Haswell would be mostly negligible and minimal at best.
 
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post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by hammong View Post

I may be somewhat unique in this opinion, but I don't believe Haswell is going to be much of an upgrade for you. You're already running quad core + hyper threading, have a strong overclock, and plenty of fast RAM. Haswell may, at best, give you 15-20% computational performance increase, and there's no guarantee it will be able to overclock as well as your existing 2600K.

The only way to get significantly more horsepower would be to move to a 6-core or 8-core + HT to give you more multi-threaded performance, and for that you'll need an X79 Sandy Bridge E or Ivy Bridge E CPU. Haswell has been predefined by Intel as their mainstream platform, and I haven't seen definitive proof that it will have more than 4 cores + HT.

Your Crisis 3 performance issues aren't CPU related, they're GPU related. The 6970x2 Crossfire is a decent setup, but Crysis 3 is going to require a little more horsepower to run smoothly on very high settings. I seem to remember that even with my pair of GTX 680 in SLI on a 3930K, Crysis 3 knocks one or two of the settings down a notch. With Tri-SLI, I could run everything on maxed out settings but it was too hot temperature wise for my tastes.

Greg

I suppose then it would make sense for me to invest in full loop water cooling system, and new GPUs. I can't do more than two GPUs because of space. Then again, the Cards are really bulky due to the fans/heatsinks. I suppose if I were going with a full loop, eliminating those components would allow me to squeeze in a third card.

I'm appreciating all this feedback.
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I suppose then it would make sense for me to invest in full loop water cooling system, and new GPUs. I can't do more than two GPUs because of space. Then again, the Cards are really bulky due to the fans/heatsinks. I suppose if I were going with a full loop, eliminating those components would allow me to squeeze in a third card.

I'm appreciating all this feedback.

Yeah, a decent custom loop or even a better AIO unit in Push/Pull means (depending on your chip) 2600K at 4.8-5.0GHz (maybe higher, because I know some of those 2600K's are binned nicely). Not guaranteed of course, but temps wise should prove to be no issue. Throw two 7950's or 670's (flash both) and you have yourself a beast rig that will last you another 3 years easily. Especially if you threw waterblocks on the GPU's too.

Trust me, your 2600K is will not be a bottleneck to almost any GPU setup you throw at it (for the most part).

Realistically, Sandy Bridge owners shouldn't be thinking about a new processor until Skylake, IMO.
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Yeah, a decent custom loop or even a better AIO unit in Push/Pull means (depending on your chip) 2600K at 4.8-5.0GHz (maybe higher, because I know some of those 2600K's are binned nicely). Not guaranteed of course, but temps wise should prove to be no issue. Throw two 7950's or 670's (flash both) and you have yourself a beast rig that will last you another 3 years easily. Especially if you threw waterblocks on the GPU's too.

Trust me, your 2600K is will not be a bottleneck to almost any GPU setup you throw at it (for the most part).

Realistically, Sandy Bridge owners shouldn't be thinking about a new processor until Skylake, IMO.

Processor wise I'm great, and I know it's capable of 5.0GHz, as I've had it up there. It was just way too hot for air! That's why I figured if there was no improvement with the upcoming deal, I'd continue to hang on to this. I can live with the limitations caused by my GPU setup, but it's disappointing as this computer should be smashing through even the latest games. There's no excuse why it should be behind.

I might go for new GPUs, see if I can get some cash for these. Interestingly enough, the 5870 I have in The Best actually seems to outperform a single 6970 in most cases. That's been a monster of a card.
I'm also ready and wanting to make the jump to 1440p.
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