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my friend is trying to build a $500 gaming computer and he is going to go with an i3 -3220. im telling him to get the amd 8300. so which one?
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8300 is far superior to i3
    
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For $500 can you even fit a discrete GPU in that build? For lightweight gaming AMD A10-5800K is the best way to go for $500 (assuming he needs case, motherboard, RAM, HDD, PSU, etc..).
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Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post

For $500 can you even fit a discrete GPU in that build? For lightweight gaming AMD A10-5800K is the best way to go for $500 (assuming he needs case, motherboard, RAM, HDD, PSU, etc..).

he is following this guide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6olutcuXHc
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8300 is far superior to i3

he is following this guide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6olutcuXHc
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Originally Posted by atomik9274 View Post

he is following this guide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6olutcuXHc
For the forum people that don't want to open up Youtube
Warning: Spoiler!I (Click to show)
Intel Core i3-3220 CPU: http://goo.gl/VRJio

MSI B75MA-P45 Motherboard: http://goo.gl/0UxgT

EVGA GTX 650 Ti Graphics Card: http://goo.gl/kpPCv

4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz RAM: http://goo.gl/k6MHj

500GB Western Digital Caviar Blue Hard Drive: http://goo.gl/42nno

430W Corsair CX430 Power Supply: http://goo.gl/aT957

NZXT Source 220 Case: http://goo.gl/cEDdu

Pretty sure you can build better for $500...

edit: If you intel and can't afford to drop $20 40 more dollars then that's roughly the best since the HD7790 and GTX 650 Ti boost are overpriced now.

Cheaper and better
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N8VT $495 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 400W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $494.90

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N8CR - $540 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($175.38 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 400W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $541.27

see

from http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_650_Ti_Boost/26.html

you might want to look into a GTX 560 Ti/GTX570/HD 6870/HD6950/HD7850 over a GTX 650 ti (non boost)

Given that AMD FX-6300 / FX8320 is ~$140-170 and a half decent AM3+ motherboard is $60+ I don't think you can go AMD here without gimping the GPU
Edited by AlphaC - 3/29/13 at 6:51pm
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At that budget it's mostly about where you can skimp to find a few more $ for the video card. For a lot of people, the i3 is the way to go... there are some games that arent' going to perform as well because you don't have four cores - but there are also other games that will perform better with an Intel chip than with an AMD chip. An AMD 8300 is NOT the way to go - even if you decided to upgrade CPU, you wouldn't want to spend on more than a locked i5/fx-6300.

However, I'd skimp further to a Pentium chip (true dual core, vs. the i3's hyperthreading). Hyperthreading, while somewhat useful on the i3, isn't that great. And if you're going dual-core you might as well get a good GPU.

Something like this could be better for him:

Pentium 2120 ($79) - basically an i3 w/o hyperthreading
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116777

MSI H61 mobo ($47) - cheap. works.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130659

EVGA GTX 660 ($200) - very nice deal. Very nice video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130826

2x4gb g.skill ripjaws ($57) - 8gb really is worth it.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&vpn=F3%2D12800CL9D%2D8GBXL&manufacture=G%2ESkill

1TB Seagate HDD ($60)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1334

XFX Core 450w ($53) - The Corsair builder series develops coil whine a bit more often than it should.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&vpn=P1450SX2B9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1257
P.S. Free shipping from us.ncix.com when your order is over $100.

Bit Fenix Merc Beta ($30) Decent enough case. Cheap. If price goes back up, you should get a Fractal Design core 1000 (mATX only) instead
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=81659&vpn=BFC%2DMRC%2D100%2DKKX2%2DU3&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1334


To sum: compared to the guide your friend was following you have: a very slightly weaker CPU, a very slightly weaker mobo (no USB 3.0), double the amount of RAM, double the HDD size, a better PSU, roughly equivalent case, and a MUCH superior video card. Have him follow my guide, and he'll be able to turn graphics settings up much higher.
    
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edit: OP needs to list what applications will be run. Otherwise this is all speculation since some games need CPU much more than GPU.
Edited by AlphaC - 3/30/13 at 12:50pm
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An A10 AMD build wouldn't be a bad idea either. Though if he wants to game a bit harder, you will need a good Discrete GPU.
 
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