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Maybe we're looking at a different price list, the one you linked above has the 8320 as routinely $24 more.

As in fx-6300 + M5A97 PRO = $340, while fx-8320 + M5A97 PRO = 364.

Anyway... is Intel really that far ahead? No. These are all small differences in the margins. But if you play SC2 team games or Shogun 2: Total War with the unit sizes set to max, the Intel per-core advantage will provide some real-world benefit. Most games there will be zero difference between AMD & Intel.

If Intel didn't exist what would I recommend? Well, it depends on if rendering matters to you. If it does, the fx-8320 + M5A97 PRO listed above. If saving $24 instead of a few seconds off rendering times sounds better, the fx-6300 + M5A97 PRO.

But you need to add a heatsink to overclock, or there's really no point to AMD.

So fx-8320 + M5A97 PRO = $364 + Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo for $59 = $423.

And while the Evo is a good cooler, it'll be working pretty hard, I wouldn't go cheaper. So anyway, compare that with the price of the locked i5+mobo above. It'll be worse on rendering times than an overcloced fx-8320 for sure. But if gaming is the main purpose it'll be at least as good & as you can see costs about $80 less then the AMD setup.
    
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Different price list? Damn I wonder how that happened, is it the one at www.laser.com.sg ? This Is what I see on my list

Would you recomand a liquid cooler or a fan cooler if I am overclocking the 8320 to around 4.2GHz?
And can the XFX HD 7770 super overclock black edition be overclocked further?
One last thing: is that 520w PSU enough for the overlocking? I heard AMD chips get really hungry when they are oc'ed
post #13 of 17
Apparently not. I think you linked a different one above.
7770: maybe. XFX doesn't always have the best coolers though (poor quality control).

Yes, the 520w unit is quality and should do well by you. Intel setups run about 450w for top of the line GPU + top of the line CPU + overclocks on both. 520 should be enough for even hungry AMD.

Water vs air isn't really a big deal. It's quality vs cheap. The Coolermaster 212 evo is decent enough, but higher end would be the noctua NH-D14. Expensive though.
    
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AMD systems honestly don't consume that much more power over Intel, it's only if you really start pushing the volts (1.55+), but most of the time that requires a really nice WC or liquid nitrogen setup, which most people use strictly for over clocking tongue.gif sometimes everything you read isn't true, people exaggerate badly so on the mainly Intel threads don't believe most of the they say.
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post #15 of 17
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Ah I think I have a older version I just rechecked and saw the one that you were referring to. I thought I was getting a great deal D:< anyways.. I think I'll settle for a 8320 and that cooler master fan, hoping that my case won't become a microwave..

The XFX happens to have two fans and I really hope that it can dissipate heat enough for me to overclock it..
post #16 of 17
I have 2 AMD rigs and 1 Intel rig. My Intel rig is the 2500k overclocked at 4.7 stable while the AMD rigs are Phenom II 960T (on 4 cores) at 4.2 stable and AMD Athlon 630 at 3.4 stable (this one is an HTPC rig).

From personal experience let me tell you that in almost all cases the Phenom II 960T is JUST FINE. It cannot be emphasized enough how real life conditions and usage trumps synthetic benchmarks.
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It cannot be emphasized enough how real life conditions and usage trumps synthetic benchmarks.
got to agree with the minion here smile.gif
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