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Half of my order came in today.. I totally did not order extra screws, I forgot they only come with enough screws for 1 side

4x Copper-plated M3x30mm hexagon socket screw
4x Copper-plated M3x35mm hexagon socket screw


is what it comes with and i am mounting 120mmx25mm fans as push pull


Any idea where I can buy the proper screws for this rad, maybe copper plated ones or just ones of the same size?
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/catalog/servlet/Search?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&keyword=3mm+x%2030mm%20screw&Ns=None&Ntpr=1&Ntpc=1&selectedCatgry=Search+All

seems my local department store never has what i need, i also want proper screws so i dont have issues with stripping the fan or radiator mount.


should i just put a bunch of washers on my 35mm screws or some orings on it to make them 30mm? i don't want to cut the screws and ruin the tip since i dont have proper tools frown.gif
  
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That's odd, mine came with 16 screws for push pull...
   
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That's odd, mine came with 16 screws for push pull...

frown.gif wish mine did

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_667_1075&products_id=34506
Extent of delivery:

1x Radiator
5x Copper-plated screw plug
4x Copper-plated M3x30mm hexagon socket screw
4x Copper-plated M3x35mm hexagon socket screw

I wanted to keep everything according so i im trying to get either the same screws from a reseller or the same size screw, i dont know if i would want to pile up washers and orings to make the 35mm not pierce my radiator fins :S

might have to take them to local hardware store and see if i can get them cut properly without spending more than what the screws are worth smile.gif

Also not too happy about cutting copper plated screws which will make the rest of the copper flake and chip
  
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post #4 of 25
Lowes has a decent assortment of metric screws.
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Lowes has a decent assortment of metric screws.

http://www.lowes.com/Search=3mm+x+30mm?storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&N=0&newSearch=true&Ntt=3mm+x+30mm#!

Lowes has 2 3mm x 30mm screws and they are fully threaded which is not good

I've been searching for a place that sells the appropriate screws but i truly can't find one.... frown.gif
  
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Lowes has 2 3mm x 30mm screws and they are fully threaded which is not good

I've been searching for a place that sells the appropriate screws but i truly can't find one.... frown.gif

What's wrong with fully-threaded?

Don't make it more difficult than it should be. 30mm should be safe, if not you can always use washers/nuts if you're worried about piercing the radiator.
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What's wrong with fully-threaded?

Don't make it more difficult than it should be. 30mm should be safe, if not you can always use washers/nuts if you're worried about piercing the radiator.


Trust me, I'm not trying to make it more difficult than it is smile.gif I just want to get the proper equipment so 3months down the road I don't have a fan rattling all over the place in my system.
I am under the impression that a fully threaded screw will strip the fan over time from the vibrations against threading and not a flush cylinder.
Not sure if this would happen but I just want to have it done proper the first time around frown.gif

http://www.rcsuperstore.com/Dubro_Socket_Head_Cap_Screws_3mm_x_30mm_p/dub2127.htm
Nice, found some better screws, I'll keep searching till I can find the proper ones or if someone who's had this headache swoops in and beats me to it thumb.gif
  
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I'm not too sure. I have fully-threaded screws securing (they're not even screwed in all the way) 4000RPM Delta's to a radiator and they have yet to be stripped.
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Oh, you are not wanting to use the 35mm long screws?

If that's the case, I used them for the Case-Fan-Rad mount and used rubber washers and bolts to get the length right. The side benefit is partial decoupling from the case smile.gif
   
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I'm not too sure. I have fully-threaded screws securing (they're not even screwed in all the way) 4000RPM Delta's to a radiator and they have yet to be stripped.

Do you use washers between the rads/fans or between the top of the fans and screws? Also did you ever test to see if they made any extra noise or odd vibrations from it?

Nothing beats experience being shared from a fellow user, thanks mate thumb.gif

I might just buy the ones for the other site, I'm a bit paranoid about the full thread, it just sucks I can't find alphacool screws to buy seperately. As a user mentioned above he received many screws on his set, I think performance-pcs might of shorted me on them just because biggrin.gif
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Oh, you are not wanting to use the 35mm long screws?

If that's the case, I used them for the Case-Fan-Rad mount and used rubber washers and bolts to get the length right. The side benefit is partial decoupling from the case smile.gif
yeah, my setup is going to be flimsy, i'm going to have to secure my monsta 120mm 80mm thick where the bay slots are and i'll only be using the 30mm fans to connect fans to rads.

I'm going to make a build log for giggles and to show progress, get advice, and ask for help.. I'm sure people will get either a good laugh or a smile from what my rig is now to what I turn it into!

So far im missing gpu block, backplate, thermal pads, fans, and the tubing which might take 3 weeks to be instock frown.gif might just use the clear i have lying around and completely redo the loop in a month with the UV tubing and make a proper drain port. I
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