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I said in another post I'd update you once I had everything in place... so here I go!

This is my third build, and I really had fun with this one. My first build was a Sandy Bridge i7 2600k (sig rig), and oh the learning curve mad.gif. I ended up with a decent OC of 4.7ghz, but 4.8 just didn't seem attainable (at that time). So I was happy and went on my merry way. However, building PC's and OC'ing got into my blood! Here's a screen of my first build:



When I built this i7 I was new, and everything I did I had to learn graduated.gif(thanks OCN!!!) Since this time, much has change for me theoretically. My first OC, I was scared...eh-smiley.gif To much heat? To much volts? Is this 24/7? Oh the fears. After all, chips are easy to come bye, but aren't free. However, now that OC'ing is a passion, I have way more fun. My current philosophy is this. Would you buy a 69 Mustang 4 speed and never take it out of third gear? Or would you build a dragster and never take it to the track? NO WAY! For me, I'm a tinkerer (well artist really), and love learning about something and getting everything I can out of it. So here I go!

Build:
Gigabyte Z77 - HD3
i5 3570K
Corsair H100i (Currently)
Kingston Hyper X (8GB @ 1600)
Thermaltake 630w PSU
HD 6950
HAF 922
120GB Samsung 840 SSD
1T Caviar Black

The build itself went fairly smooth. A few hiccups though. First, my original memory (sorry forgot now what brand/model) caused a cold boot loop. So I grabbed a stick of Corsair Vengeance out of another machine and it booted right up. So back to the candy store for my current Kingston stuff. All was good. Later someone mentioned that I should have tried enabling XMP in bios, but oh well, I'll never know. Second weird thing I found was that Windows Experienced Index crashed my system. Long story short I had to turn off the internal CPU GPU. I guess my bios was having a hard time with the whole Virtu Logic thing, basically my discreet wasn't playing nice with the 4000. Anyway... from looking at some benches I don't think I'm losing all that much with internal graphics disabled. I'm stable at least.

Now the good stuff. I read this guide over and over because it's on a Gigabyte board: http://www.overclock.net/t/1247413/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-with-ln2-guide-at-the-end Thanks so much Sin0822, great guide! After settling on a stable OC (more on this in a bit) and reading this guide, I realized I might have a decent chip. I wanted to know how low I could go on volts at 4.5ghz. Disclaimer: I didn't spend to much time at this, when I say "stable" I mean boot into windows, run 64bit IBT on default settings (10pass) and pass WEI with a quick 5 to 10 Prime95 test. So, 4.5@1.15 everything was good, but at 4.5@1.125 ITB finally crashed. Here's a screen passing 4.5@1.15 (mostly ran at 1.140 due to droop)



Now back to the stable OC I mentioned. I settled on 48@1.33. This was 12hrs stable in Prime 95. My screenshot is @ the 9hr mark and on my old monitor. Notice the temps... 77 to 86. I found this totally acceptable, but not great. Well, not really even good.



I ran this for a while and started doing more reading. I found out these Ivy's run hot in general, and that there was a solution...!!!biggrin.gif Knowing this, and that maybe my chip could make it to the illustrious 5.0ghz mark given it's vcore's, I headed to Canadian Tire (I live in Canada Obviously) for some razor blades and hoped on the inter-web machine and ordered myself up a Corsair H100i and some Coolaboratory's Liquid Ultra!!! And when it came in the mail...



Now I hate to criticize or make people feel bad who have been unsuccessful at delidding, but for me, this was so ridiculously easy. Now, I am an obsessive reader, researcher, and above all really good with my hands (I have a Masters Degree in Sculpture) thumb.gif I watched all the videos and was 100% confident in my ability. I was the guy (back in the day) who soldered chips into my friend PS2's to play burned games and soldered cables to hook up satellite dishes to PC's... errrr.... for research purposes... I have a few tips for delidding that I haven't read or seen anywhere yet. One (and this is a woodworking slogan), your tool is only as good as it's edge. This means that no matter how good or expensive or appropriate a tool is, if it's dull it is useless. I used 6 razor blades to do mine. One to do two corners, another for the other two corners, then one for each side. A tip for Canadian's: Canadian Tire has 10 packs of very thin (0.009) razor blades for like 2 bucks, get these, they are great. Remember this too, take the blade out of the chip the same way it went in. I've read of people scratching the PCB, and I would bet that 99% of the time that happened while pulling the blade out. You kinda get excited when it goes in (that is so true in more ways than one winksmiley02.gif) but then lose focus taking it out and don't keep it flat. The other part to this is that when doing the sides (after the corners), put an end of the blade into a corner, then work it down into the side, once through, reverse the process and take out that initial corner last.

Inside:


Cleaned up:


A little bit of Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra:


Then back in the case and installed the new Corsair H100i. I need to say something here. I would have liked to put my previous cooler (Coolermaster X6 Elite) back on to get an accurate reading to just how the delid affected temps, but I really didn't want to be doing all that installing, cleaning, and reinstalling. Here are my temp readings:

OC Temps
Using BIOS "4.8 1.33" 1.745 PLL and LLC Extreme
Room @ 20 degrees

Cooler Master 6X - Stock Chip
Intel Burn Test (default Max Cores RT) - 88, 100, 100, 94 Package 99
Prime 95 (default for 10min MAX Cores RT) - 78, 85, 85, 81 Package 86

Corsair H100i - Delid with CLU TIM on Die, Stock Corsair h100i TIM
Intel Burn Test (default Max Cores RT) - 65, 74, 76, 71 Package 77 (-22 degrees)
Prime 95 (default for 10min MAX Cores RT) - 60, 69, 70, 64 Package 69 ( -17 degrees)

You will notice I used the "stock" pre-applied TIM on the H100i. I pondered this for a long time and read many posts, none of which were 100% conclusive. Some say this company makes it, some say that... Anyway, I found zero conclusive evidence that swayed me to remove it and use something else. Plus, my other box is running the original H100 and I'm happy with its performance.

OK, lets go to 5.0ghz. I always take notes as I go, and this time a very interesting pattern developed for me. I said "for me". I'd be curious to know if any of you have found the same thing. My set-up has a very linear progression of multiplier to vcore. For every multi increase, it needs a 0.06v increase.

4.5@1.15
4.6@1.21
4.7@1.27
4.8@1.33 - Ran this for quite a while
4.9@1.39

So I figured I'd need 1.45v to stabilize 5.0ghz, and sure enough, bang on! I started at 1.48 to make sure and worked my way down till it would BSOD. At 1.44 it was unstable so I played around with LLC and PLL and tried Overvoltage on and off and found decent stability (BSOD after 4hrs Prime95). Because my temps were ok I just sucked it up and gave it the extra 0.01v it wanted and found 12hr stability. Finally, a 5.0ghz Ivy Intel not breaking 80 degrees Celsius after 12 hours of Prime95!

BIOS
Load optimized defaults
Change IDE to AHCI
LLC to 5(Turbo on Gigabyte)
Multiplier to 50
VCore to 1.45







I didn't mention PLL because I left the default 1.845 for 1.45 only because my temps are acceptable. If I was fighting the volts/heat battle the way I was before the delid, I'd ideally like to find stability at a lower PLL. My 4.8@1.33 I ran before the delid was at 1.745. And from seeing other 5.0ghz i5 3570K's I think 1.845 if right around where I should be anyway.

Thanks for reading. Comments please!
Edited by Phantom NZXT - 3/29/13 at 12:49pm
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Well done; plus rep!
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Brave man! Thanks for the read.
 
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No shoutout for the delidded crew!? nah just kidding nice job btw man. and give my your info and i'll add you to the club! thumb.gif
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Nicely done and thanks for the read. I cant use the PC i build not more than 2 month ago because im being hospitalized now. I was in the middle of working my way up from 4.5 Ghz too hehe.
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Thanks guys!

@Valguar - Yes, your thread is super awesome!! Lots of great info. I will provide you my info to join.
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