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Originally Posted by xplode-bg View Post

People do not hate AMD systems, there are people that want to get good performance for a good price and they choose AMD. There are other people who want top performance no matter the price who choose Intel. AMD are far behind Intel in CPU designs. Their latest 8 core, which is not exactly 8 core is 4 core with 8 threads, similar to intel 4 core CPUs, and it get similar performance to a 4 core intel.

Except it is an 8 core and in alot of multi threaded things it matches the 3770k, It overclocks higher due to not having thermal issues, And it costs less, The only thing that lets the 8350 down is lower single thread performance wich can be fixed by overclocking it's balls off to be a non issue.


The FX 8xxx series are real 8 cores, Sorry but they are.
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Ive bounced between AMD and Intel my entier Professional Career and my entire Personal "Career."

For me it always comes down to how much im willing to spend and what im doing with the machine.
When I first got on OCN It was an Athlon II 255, Then a 1090T, and now im in a string of i7s, and ill probably be going into a Xeon or Opteron for my main machine later this year(doing more and more Design work recently).

People never spoke poorly about my system specifically because its not hard to build a computer thats fairly well balanced, but AMD gets a lot of hate for obvious reasons.

I think a lot of people get lost in the pursuit of performance and forget that there are other considerations that need to be made when building a system.
Everyone assigns part value and priority differently, and that can be hard for many people to grasp.

Im actually not sure Intel and AMD can really be compared anymore.
First gen Core processors and the old 955/1090T days were one thing.
These days they have headed in seemingly different directions.
Intel appears to be more focused on the mobile market and operations per watt, and AMD seems to be focusing on GPU and heavily threaded workloads at the expense of power draw.
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Intel guys start hating when they realise that the chips that are cheaper than theirs come dangerously close to the performance they get. In this case a 8350 biggrin.gif.
 
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Originally Posted by xplode-bg View Post

People do not hate AMD systems, there are people that want to get good performance for a good price and they choose AMD. There are other people who want top performance no matter the price who choose Intel. AMD are far behind Intel in CPU designs. Their latest 8 core, which is not exactly 8 core is 4 core with 8 threads, similar to intel 4 core CPUs, and it get similar performance to a 4 core intel.

No. Dont talk unless you know your sh_t.

8320-8350 has 2 cores per module (4 Modules)
6300 has 2 cores per module (3 Modules)
4300 or whatever it is also has 2 cores per module (2 Modules)

It all depends on what you define as a core, wether it is what is called a module or integer clusters and FPU. No matter the definition it certainly acts like 8 cores.

Vishera 8350s have 8 cores.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I will be quite happy of AMD make better CPU than intel, and i agree that 8350 is a step in the right direction, but they have too much work to do in order to achieve such thing.
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Except it is an 8 core and in alot of multi threaded things it matches the 3770k, It overclocks higher due to not having thermal issues, And it costs less, The only thing that lets the 8350 down is lower single thread performance wich can be fixed by overclocking it's balls off to be a non issue.


The FX 8xxx series are real 8 cores, Sorry but they are.
This is the first time i'm hearing the 8350 matching the 3770k. Okay, i used to be a AMD fanboy but that came as a shock to me tongue.gif
I think you mean the 3570k
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Don't get me wrong, I will be quite happy of AMD make better CPU than intel, and i agree that 8350 is a step in the right direction, but they have too much work to do in order to achieve such thing.

Do you even know why Intel out performs AMD as of now? And please dont answer with "Because it just is" or "Becaue Intel is better".
 
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Nice overclock! but I'm sorry to say that you are somewhat thermally limited. AMD CPU's are made differently from Intel CPU's and have different thermal tolerances. 62c is the max rated temperature for BD/PD chips and I would be uncomfortable pushing against that all the time.

Edit: 5.2 is also golden-chip level if you are really stable at that. I can't get full stability at 5.0, but I'm pretty solid at 4.9.

They say that but a good engineer is conservative when he puts the specs down on paper. If you are a little ballsie like me you can push it some. I haven't OCed yet but, I do I'm not gonna care to much if touch or even break 62C be a few degrees, specialy since those would stress testing over 24 hours and not normal usage.

EDIT: I have and use both Intel and AMD, Nivida and ATI/AMD.
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This is the first time i'm hearing the 8350 matching the 3770k. Okay, i used to be a AMD fanboy but that came as a shock to me tongue.gif
I think you mean the 3570k

It does in some multithreaded applications and games. Whenever the 8350 can use AVX instruction set it becomes a multithreading beast.
 
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