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This reads like a buyers remorse thread.

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Intel has raised IPC a lot while AMD hasn't thanks to the major failures of BD. PD improved significantly and not "just merely better"
At least with 8 cores they stood up again against the 3570k while being cheaper not considering for motherboard costs
That's because AMD desktop procs are reporting different values in temps compared to intel procs

That too but,i have noticed this happening from CPU to CPU. for example some Core 2 duos/quads will have 1 or too cores that run notably cooler or warmer. I finally figured out that it really isn't that warm or cool it's that the temp sensors are just a bit off from time to time. I believe the same for AMD Hexs and quads.
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That too but,i have noticed this happening from CPU to CPU. for example some Core 2 duos/quads will have 1 or too cores that run notably cooler or warmer. I finally figured out that it really isn't that warm or cool it's that the temp sensors are just a bit off from time to time. I believe the same for AMD Hexs and quads.
Same for nehalem mad.gif if i'm not wrong
My L5520 has a very low TDP (85W @ 3.6GHz 1.26V) but i'm afraid it's not actually soldered, why? junction temps are 71,73 on 2 cores 75,76C and IHS temp is 61C ... Da hell. Plus this is on a big cooler
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I like my AMD's.... Ive had a bunch of them..... with only a few mobo's biggrin.gif I also like that fact that I dont have to changes those everytime I change CPU's...

my 8350 can do the same as a 3570k, and keep up to a 3770k in multithreaded applications, dont get me wrong intel's high end would be nice but I dont like spending an arm and a leg on upgrades
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Same for nehalem mad.gif if i'm not wrong
My L5520 has a very low TDP (85W @ 3.6GHz 1.26V) but i'm afraid it's not actually soldered, why? junction temps are 71,73 on 2 cores 75,76C and IHS temp is 61C ... Da hell. Plus this is on a big cooler

how do you know the IHS temp? I promise you it is very very unlikely it has it's sensor since the CPU with it's sensor are encased in glass/silicon. What i'm getting at is no thermal past/IHS but, the temp sensor aren't' all that accurate, (OCN has several articals on this) and if any thing max temp "requirements" are a guide rather than cut off point.
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how do you know the IHS temp? I promise you it is very very unlikely it has it's sensor since the CPU with it's sensor are encased in glass/silicon. What i'm getting at is no thermal past/IHS but, the temp sensor aren't' all that accurate, (OCN has several articals on this) and if any thing max temp "requirements" are a guide rather than cut off point.
I don't know about normal chips but AIDA64 definitely says CPU 59C while the cores themselves are 74,73,74,70
Because the southbridge is definitely @ 60C while the VRMs are at 42C so what's left for 59C on the board then? Because my IR thermo says no where else but the heatsink pipes and even that is sitting at 38C (Poor contact .... lousy thermal paste, screwed up thermal paste application as well)
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It seemed to be most prominent around when Bulldozer released. Occasionally comments are warranted to correct mentalities such as "8150 HAS 8 CORES IS MUCH SUPERIOR TO 6 CORE 3970X", although an excess in putting other people down simply based on their computer hardware is both short-sighted and ultimately immature.

Each company has an offering that may be a superior implementation with regards to the target market and intended usage.
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I used an A6 system yest that a guy got custom made for like 400$. My custom PCs start at i3 2100 and is 650 (but also includes lian li) anyway, machine was good. No complaints..... for the cheaper builds its definitely worth it.

Then again my Toyota is worth it but I'd still like a shiny BMW frown.gif
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It seemed to be most prominent around when Bulldozer released. Occasionally comments are warranted to correct mentalities such as "8150 HAS 8 CORES IS MUCH SUPERIOR TO 6 CORE 3970X", although an excess in putting other people down simply based on their computer hardware is both short-sighted and ultimately immature.

Each company has an offering that may be a superior implementation with regards to the target market and intended usage.
Speaking of 8 core = better mentality the Samsung sheeps are going to say their S4 8 core = definitely better.
Yeah but, 4 cores are sleeper cores
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