Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Tech-Radar]AMD on the PS4: We gave it the hardware Nvidia couldn't
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Tech-Radar]AMD on the PS4: We gave it the hardware Nvidia couldn't - Page 10

post #91 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreatsquare View Post

The PS4 "OS" is based on Windows 7.
Source please? I highly doubt that, MS definitely won't allow it, and Sony has more expertise with Unix, since PS Vita runs some kind of it. But yeah, it will be a more like a full-fledged OS, rather than a simplified game-runner, hence all the social stuff, etc.
Main
(17 items)
 
Nintendo DS
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700K Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3 MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB WD Blue WD30EZRZ 3TB Noctua NH-D15S Nanoxia Deep Silence 140mm, 1100 RPM, 68.5 CFM 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm, 1300 RPM, 60.1 CFM Windows 10 Enterprise Zalcom ZM27Q1 27" 1440p Glossy IPS Leopold FC750 (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA 650 G2 Corsair 400Q Logitech Performance Mouse MX Mayflower Objective2 + ODAC Rev. B Combo 
Audio
Audio-Technica ATH-A990Z 
CPUCPURAMHard Drive
ARM946E-S 67.028 MHz  ARM7TDMI 33.514 MHz  4 MB 256 kB 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
DS OS 3" 256×192 18-bit 3" 256×192 18-bit 850 mAh 
  hide details  
Reply
Main
(17 items)
 
Nintendo DS
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700K Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3 MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB WD Blue WD30EZRZ 3TB Noctua NH-D15S Nanoxia Deep Silence 140mm, 1100 RPM, 68.5 CFM 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm, 1300 RPM, 60.1 CFM Windows 10 Enterprise Zalcom ZM27Q1 27" 1440p Glossy IPS Leopold FC750 (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA 650 G2 Corsair 400Q Logitech Performance Mouse MX Mayflower Objective2 + ODAC Rev. B Combo 
Audio
Audio-Technica ATH-A990Z 
CPUCPURAMHard Drive
ARM946E-S 67.028 MHz  ARM7TDMI 33.514 MHz  4 MB 256 kB 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
DS OS 3" 256×192 18-bit 3" 256×192 18-bit 850 mAh 
  hide details  
Reply
post #92 of 146
I am pretty sure that MS won't allow that. I believe the OS for PS4 is not based off of Windows at all.
The Raven
(14 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel I7 5820K MSI X99s Mpower Nvidia GTX 970 MSI Dragon 4g Corsair Vengeance LPX  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung EVO 840  Western Digital Black Series Cryorig R1 Universal Microsoft Windows 7 Service Pack 1  
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus vg248qe Razer Deathstalker EVGA G2 850w Fractal Design R5 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech 303 Razer Soft 
  hide details  
Reply
The Raven
(14 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel I7 5820K MSI X99s Mpower Nvidia GTX 970 MSI Dragon 4g Corsair Vengeance LPX  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung EVO 840  Western Digital Black Series Cryorig R1 Universal Microsoft Windows 7 Service Pack 1  
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus vg248qe Razer Deathstalker EVGA G2 850w Fractal Design R5 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech 303 Razer Soft 
  hide details  
Reply
post #93 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cavi Mike View Post

I said this before and I'll say it again:

Consoles don't use new tech, they use proven tech.

You will NEVER see a console with new tech. NEVER. As a company - if that new tech fails, do you really want to deal with the repercussions? Of course not.

Besides, we all know that you don't need new tech to perform well. You just need specially engineered tech along with specially engineered games. Just like the new slim PS3 can't play PS2 games. It doesn't have the processor power to emulate the Emotion processor but does that mean it has less power than a PS2? Obviously not.

This. There was one console that used new tech..The PS3.

Remember how much it cost at launch? Sony and Microsoft do not want to see that happen to themselves (Again for Sony)
Quote:
Originally Posted by A Bad Day View Post

Why compete against your competitor's strength (Intel's x86 CPU performance), when you can flank it by pushing for widespread adaptation of GPU-computing?

Anyone remember the era where the CPU did the graphic workload and the GPU simply converted one type of signals to another?

Actually, clock for clock AMDs CPUs are very close to Intels when all 8 cores are used, if anything it'd be in both companies interest to get GPGPU going easily on their iGPUs, imagine buying an AMD or Intel APU and using the iGPU and quite a bit of the CPU for physics calculations so your main GPU still has all of its horsepower for rendering, that'd be amazing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

LoL yeah but i mean a non Xeon Choice something sub 800$ wink.gif

If Intel launches an 8 core IB-e or Haswell-E, it'll most certainly be an EE...So Skylake-E at the earliest will be when we get a 3930k 8 core style, I reckon.
That is of course unless games really start using CPU power, Intel has 8 core dies and likely would provide a cheaper model due to the extra demand..Then again, you never know.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post

What are you babling? This is not proven tech. It is as new as it gets. It is designed specifically for this application. The right term is high end. A console cannot use the pcs high end tech because it is way too expensive, produces way to much heat and uses too much energy.

Nvidias comparison was utterly stupid. Comparing a 500 euro gfx card with a 500 euro console. It was the dumbest thing they could do. They should have just shut up and moved on.

If it is true what they claim I personally think a hd7850 in a console is pretty awesome. It is an enormous step up from the current gen. And seeing how some current titles look I think most gamers will be very happy.

Actually, it is proven tech apart from the process node...GCN has been around for a year and while Jaguar is new, it's an upgrade of a previous generation and not unproven tech, same with APUs in general considering we're on our 3rd generation Intel and AMD ones, about to see the 4th generation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by S.M. View Post

The CPU is Jaguar and the GPU is GCN2.0, both proven tech.

Jaguar is currently powering the supercomputer behind the light deck at Stony Brook University. It's not the bulldozer architecture.

It's an upgraded Bobcat, I believe.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

There we go again.

PD is not a true quadcore only if you make use of 256bit AVX, then both FMA units fuse into a single 256bit precision one.

To all other intents and purposes, it is an eight core with four shared decoders.


Back on topic. It was obvious that NVIDIA was mad because they didn't secure even one deal.

Even then, the logic that you have to have an FPU to be a real core means that we didn't have an x86 CPU core until the 486 came out...Before then, you had to get an external co-pro FPU if you wanted to do floating point calculations quickly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post

Um ok... so you know something about the new OS we don't? The buzz is that 720 is running a windows 8 variant. Plenty of overhead. No idea what Sony is running but theyve never been real BRILLIANT at optimizing software.

Firstly, while it would be a Windows 8 variant that just most likely means it'll have the kernel but with nearly all of the crap stripped out...You know how a lot of gamers want a version of Windows that comes with the bare essentials on it? That's the Xbox OS. As for Sony used an OpenBSD derived OS for the PS3, and I'm guessing will continue along that route.

Most of the optimization is also done by the developers, not Sony and MS...They reduce overhead of their OS (Mainly RAM usage as the OS would use bugger all CPU power while in the background) but the rest would mostly be up to the developers, what does matter from Sony, Microsoft, etc is their documentation on the hardware, if they offer good documentation then developers will be able to make good use of the hardware quickly, otherwise it'll take time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by black7hought View Post

Why not?

This has the potential to be great news for all of us. If AMD, Sony and Microsoft can get console software developers to utilize all threads and it transfers over to PC gaming then that is good news whether you're an AMD or Intel CPU owner. It also may give AMD the financial boost they need to implement their HSA plan which may also bring good changes to our computer building future.

becuz da shiny graf sais amd gets less fps dan intel.
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreatsquare View Post

The PS4 "OS" is based on Windows 7.

Proof? I really doubt MS would license it to Sony, plus give them source code access. (Or that Sony would accept Win7 without source code access knowing MS could screw them over somehow with that)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RagingCain View Post

AMD gave Sony a price lower than nVidia, making money on the backend (i.e. percentage of sales) != Hardware nVidia Couldn't Have Made.

I hate these idiots at AMD. Shut up and work on your drivers, Skyrim is broken still.

Skyrim works fine on my HD7950 and HD7850 in separate rigs. Just because you have issues, doesn't mean everyone does.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AznDud333 View Post

remember that clock for clock amd chips are still slower than intel chips, and it doesnt help that ps4 chips are clocked at 3.6ghz..less than half of the average mid end intel chips today...and compared to a 3930k its hella slow

Keep in mind that the typical CPU usage of a game even on Windows is pretty damn low, people seriously over-estimate the role of the CPU in gaming and how much of a difference it actually does make.
Plus, if the PS4 remains based off of BSD like the PS3 did, it'll get more out of any CPU than that same CPU under Windows...Why do you think folders use Linux?
Quote:
Originally Posted by A Bad Day View Post

Intel promised a 10% performance increase in their GPU with a driver update.

Tell me that 10% does not matter.


EDIT: A while ago, Tom's Hardware did a GPU driver experiment on a 4850. They tested a variety of drivers ranging from the first stable release for the 4850, and the latest one when they started doing the benchmarks.

They concluded by staying up to date with the graphic drivers, the updated 4850 matched an un-updated 4870 in performance.

10% does not matter depending on the situation, when you're sitting at 30fps minimum then 10% (Or even 1%) matters a lot as any gain is useful, but if you're sitting at say, 60fps or 120fps minimum then 10% doesn't matter any longer...as for CPUs, I still doubt that most people would notice if their Core i*s suddenly changed to Phenom IIs or FX's mid-game without staring at fraps or something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

Nvidia is doing just fine with Tegra. Project Shield is probably the dumbest idea from Nvidia ever though.

PS4 will be a low end PC as will Durango. Consoles don't need to be top of the line because it's a hell of a lot easier to optimize games when you only have one hardware set to code for. Essentially they will be low end PC's with graphics that will challenge high end PC's for the first couple years.

Mid-range, not low-end.
Although it'll go from the middle of the mid-range to the lower end of the midrange by the time the PS4 launches, to be fair.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AznDud333 View Post

no one said 10% didnt matter, but 10% isnt gonna make up the difference between a 570 and a 680...the difference is almost 200%..

What's the difference between an 8800GTS and an ATi x1950XTX? Here's a hint: Kepler was nothing compared to the massive gain we got overnight from the 8800 series which was literally double the previous fastest GPUs and beat CFX/SLI setups left and right with one card...And the Xbox 360 (240 GFLOPs) is still going to be slightly under the x1950XTX (375 GFLOPs) in terms of pure hardware, yet thanks to optimization it pulls numbers similar to a modern 8800GTS. I find it funny people are still pulling the "Optimization can only do a little!" line considering it's been disproven time and time again, even by just a mere glance at the console hardware specs and what the graphics they're putting out look like.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vampirr View Post

Yea and 7800GT dint do the job well that game developers owned by Sony were forced to use CELL's processor to run graphics better than 7800GT. Cell is an distant relative to APU in some form since it ran CPU and GPU loads with Uncharted 2 and 3...

That was because Sony was trying to push the Cell as much as possible and wrote the OS to discourage the 7800GTX's use.
What about Xenos? It's a 240GFLOPs GPU putting out the kind of graphics I'd expect from a much faster GPU in the 400GFLOPs (HD2900XT/8800GTS) range.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Robot View Post

Source please? I highly doubt that, MS definitely won't allow it, and Sony has more expertise with Unix, since PS Vita runs some kind of it. But yeah, it will be a more like a full-fledged OS, rather than a simplified game-runner, hence all the social stuff, etc.

PS3 OS is based off of OpenBSD, I believe the Vita's is too and would wager that the PSPs was too considering the similarities between those 3 that they don't share with the PS1/PS2.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570k @ 4.5Ghz ASRock Z77 Pro3 Powercolor Radeon HD7950 3GB @ 1150/1350 4x4GB G.Skill Ares 2000Mhz CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 250GB Western Digital Black 1TB WD1002FAEX Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Samsung Spinpoint EcoGreen 2TB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Pioneer DVR-220LBKS Noctua NH-D14 Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850rpm Corsair AF140 Quiet Edition 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Arcitc Cooling Acclero Twin Turbo II Arch Linux x86-64, amdgpu BenQ G2220HD BenQ G2020HD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine III Year of the Snake, Cherry Blue Silverstone Strider Plus 600w CoolerMaster CM690 II Black and White SteelSeries Sensei Professional 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Artisan Hien Mid Japan Black Large ASUS Xonar DX NZXT Sentry Mesh 30w Fan Controller 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570k @ 4.5Ghz ASRock Z77 Pro3 Powercolor Radeon HD7950 3GB @ 1150/1350 4x4GB G.Skill Ares 2000Mhz CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 250GB Western Digital Black 1TB WD1002FAEX Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 Samsung Spinpoint EcoGreen 2TB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Pioneer DVR-220LBKS Noctua NH-D14 Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850rpm Corsair AF140 Quiet Edition 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Arcitc Cooling Acclero Twin Turbo II Arch Linux x86-64, amdgpu BenQ G2220HD BenQ G2020HD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine III Year of the Snake, Cherry Blue Silverstone Strider Plus 600w CoolerMaster CM690 II Black and White SteelSeries Sensei Professional 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Artisan Hien Mid Japan Black Large ASUS Xonar DX NZXT Sentry Mesh 30w Fan Controller 
  hide details  
Reply
post #94 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post

PS3 OS is based off of OpenBSD, I believe the Vita's is too and would wager that the PSPs was too considering the similarities between those 3 that they don't share with the PS1/PS2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_system_software
The native operating system of the PlayStation 3 is CellOS, which is believed to be a branch from the FreeBSD project.
As for Vita, doubt that it's BSD, cause it has poor support for non-x86. Something proprietary, definitely not GNU-licensed.
Main
(17 items)
 
Nintendo DS
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700K Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3 MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB WD Blue WD30EZRZ 3TB Noctua NH-D15S Nanoxia Deep Silence 140mm, 1100 RPM, 68.5 CFM 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm, 1300 RPM, 60.1 CFM Windows 10 Enterprise Zalcom ZM27Q1 27" 1440p Glossy IPS Leopold FC750 (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA 650 G2 Corsair 400Q Logitech Performance Mouse MX Mayflower Objective2 + ODAC Rev. B Combo 
Audio
Audio-Technica ATH-A990Z 
CPUCPURAMHard Drive
ARM946E-S 67.028 MHz  ARM7TDMI 33.514 MHz  4 MB 256 kB 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
DS OS 3" 256×192 18-bit 3" 256×192 18-bit 850 mAh 
  hide details  
Reply
Main
(17 items)
 
Nintendo DS
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700K Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3 MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB WD Blue WD30EZRZ 3TB Noctua NH-D15S Nanoxia Deep Silence 140mm, 1100 RPM, 68.5 CFM 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm, 1300 RPM, 60.1 CFM Windows 10 Enterprise Zalcom ZM27Q1 27" 1440p Glossy IPS Leopold FC750 (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA 650 G2 Corsair 400Q Logitech Performance Mouse MX Mayflower Objective2 + ODAC Rev. B Combo 
Audio
Audio-Technica ATH-A990Z 
CPUCPURAMHard Drive
ARM946E-S 67.028 MHz  ARM7TDMI 33.514 MHz  4 MB 256 kB 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
DS OS 3" 256×192 18-bit 3" 256×192 18-bit 850 mAh 
  hide details  
Reply
post #95 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

An 8 core APU with a 7850 GPU is definitely low end. Why, oh why, aren't they using LN2 cooled 3970X with quad Titans?

I know right? And that's just mid-range.

If they really wanted to impress, they would have quad Xeons, one for each Titan.

Seriously, anyone who is saying this is is low end...just stop. Low end would have been a low clocked dual to quad core (without any form of HT) likely IBM CPU with a 1GB GDDR5 7770 equivalent. Even then, that still would have been a step up from the PS3.

A GPU that's roughly somewhere between a 7850 and 7870 with an 8 core APU would technically be a mid-range gaming rig if it were a PC. Considering that consoles get TONS of optimization because the games can be specifically tailored to the tech, I don't think it's unfounded to say that in a cross-platform game with optimization emphasis on the PS4, it could probably come close to matching the performance and eye candy of a i7-3570K and Radeon 7970 rig.

Seriously, are people unaware of the optimization thing? How do they think current consoles are rendering the newest games, dragon magic?
Rising Phoenix
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 6700K @ 4.6GHz ASUS Maximus VIII Hero MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 16GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1TB Samsung 960 EVO m.2 Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Windows 10 Pro x64 ASUS VG248QE 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB Corsair HX-850 Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Logitech Proteus Spectrum 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Unknown Onboard Oculus Rift w/Touch Controllers 
  hide details  
Reply
Rising Phoenix
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 6700K @ 4.6GHz ASUS Maximus VIII Hero MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 16GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1TB Samsung 960 EVO m.2 Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Windows 10 Pro x64 ASUS VG248QE 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB Corsair HX-850 Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Logitech Proteus Spectrum 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Unknown Onboard Oculus Rift w/Touch Controllers 
  hide details  
Reply
post #96 of 146
AMD and consoles belong together, for more reasons than I care to list thumb.gif
Ivypascal
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 3570K, 4.6 GHz @ 1.29V Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H eVGA GTX1080 ACX SC 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial M4SSD2 SATA III (128GB) Windows 10 Pro x64 Viewsonic XG2703-GS & Dell 24' 07WFPHC CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid, MX Red 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX850 Coolermaster HAF 932 Logitech G502 
  hide details  
Reply
Ivypascal
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 3570K, 4.6 GHz @ 1.29V Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H eVGA GTX1080 ACX SC 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial M4SSD2 SATA III (128GB) Windows 10 Pro x64 Viewsonic XG2703-GS & Dell 24' 07WFPHC CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid, MX Red 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair HX850 Coolermaster HAF 932 Logitech G502 
  hide details  
Reply
post #97 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aluc13 View Post

I am pretty sure that MS won't allow that. I believe the OS for PS4 is not based off of Windows at all.

They would probably love it, because they'd have control over the OS for their main console competitor and they'd make money licensing the software.

Sony would hate it, because it would drive up the cost of PS4 because it'd have to include licensing fees.

I would be amazed if it ran something besides Linux kernel. It shouldn't even be a question regarding Sony's use of open standards and their use of FOSS, like Bullet Physics.

EDIT:

But this was a good rebuttal to Nvidia going "lol AMD sux we don't offer a product bad enough to power consoles"
Edited by sdlvx - 3/30/13 at 11:53pm
Tyrant Kuma
(13 items)
 
Starscythe
(13 items)
 
Mobility
(6 items)
 
CPUCPUCPUCPU
Opteron 8431 Opteron 8431 Opteron 8431 Opteron 8431 
MotherboardGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Super Micro h8qme-2+ Sapphire 4870 Samsung DDR2 ECC 667mhz western digital caviar blue 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
FX 8350 stock cooler FX 6300 stock cooler Gentoo Linux 2x Silverstone PSU 
Case
Custom Fabbed Steel Case 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8350 gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 7970 Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Gentoo Linux Windows 7 x64 Yamakasi Catleap Q270 Corsair K90 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution 850W 80 PLUS... Antec 1200 Logitech G9x Asus Xonar D2X 
Other
XSPC RS360 Raystorm with custom radiator mounts 
CPUGraphicsRAMOS
a4 5000 Radeon HD 8330 8GB G. Skill DDR3 1600 9-9-9 Gentoo Linux 
OSOther
Windows 7 Lenovo Thinkpad x140e 
  hide details  
Reply
Tyrant Kuma
(13 items)
 
Starscythe
(13 items)
 
Mobility
(6 items)
 
CPUCPUCPUCPU
Opteron 8431 Opteron 8431 Opteron 8431 Opteron 8431 
MotherboardGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Super Micro h8qme-2+ Sapphire 4870 Samsung DDR2 ECC 667mhz western digital caviar blue 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
FX 8350 stock cooler FX 6300 stock cooler Gentoo Linux 2x Silverstone PSU 
Case
Custom Fabbed Steel Case 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8350 gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 7970 Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 16GB 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Gentoo Linux Windows 7 x64 Yamakasi Catleap Q270 Corsair K90 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution 850W 80 PLUS... Antec 1200 Logitech G9x Asus Xonar D2X 
Other
XSPC RS360 Raystorm with custom radiator mounts 
CPUGraphicsRAMOS
a4 5000 Radeon HD 8330 8GB G. Skill DDR3 1600 9-9-9 Gentoo Linux 
OSOther
Windows 7 Lenovo Thinkpad x140e 
  hide details  
Reply
post #98 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Robot View Post

Source please? I highly doubt that, MS definitely won't allow it, and Sony has more expertise with Unix, since PS Vita runs some kind of it. But yeah, it will be a more like a full-fledged OS, rather than a simplified game-runner, hence all the social stuff, etc.
Quote:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/03/sony-dives-deep-into-the-ps4s-hardware-power-controller-features-at-gdc/

The development environment coders will use is based on Windows 7 and fully integrated with Visual Studio 2010 and 2012, allowing developers to debug PS4 code just like PC code. Tools will include C and C++ front ends that are largely compatible with most standard compilers, and various binary utilities, including CPU and GPU analyzers that can run in real time alongside games. Development houses will also be able to distribute tool and version updates to multiple dev kits more easily through a tool integrated into Windows Explorer.
Mobile Gamer IV
(8 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMOptical Drive
i7 4710HQ Nvidia GTX 980m 8GB 16GB [2x8GB] 1600MHz Blu-ray Burner 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 8.1 x64 Steel Series Full-Color Programmable 230w Power Brick MSI GT72 DOMINATOR 
  hide details  
Reply
Mobile Gamer IV
(8 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMOptical Drive
i7 4710HQ Nvidia GTX 980m 8GB 16GB [2x8GB] 1600MHz Blu-ray Burner 
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 8.1 x64 Steel Series Full-Color Programmable 230w Power Brick MSI GT72 DOMINATOR 
  hide details  
Reply
post #99 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegreatsquare View Post

No, that's about the development tools, it doesn't say the console itself runs W7.
Main
(17 items)
 
Nintendo DS
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700K Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3 MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB WD Blue WD30EZRZ 3TB Noctua NH-D15S Nanoxia Deep Silence 140mm, 1100 RPM, 68.5 CFM 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm, 1300 RPM, 60.1 CFM Windows 10 Enterprise Zalcom ZM27Q1 27" 1440p Glossy IPS Leopold FC750 (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA 650 G2 Corsair 400Q Logitech Performance Mouse MX Mayflower Objective2 + ODAC Rev. B Combo 
Audio
Audio-Technica ATH-A990Z 
CPUCPURAMHard Drive
ARM946E-S 67.028 MHz  ARM7TDMI 33.514 MHz  4 MB 256 kB 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
DS OS 3" 256×192 18-bit 3" 256×192 18-bit 850 mAh 
  hide details  
Reply
Main
(17 items)
 
Nintendo DS
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
6700K Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 3 MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Evo 500GB WD Blue WD30EZRZ 3TB Noctua NH-D15S Nanoxia Deep Silence 140mm, 1100 RPM, 68.5 CFM 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Nanoxia Deep Silence 120mm, 1300 RPM, 60.1 CFM Windows 10 Enterprise Zalcom ZM27Q1 27" 1440p Glossy IPS Leopold FC750 (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA 650 G2 Corsair 400Q Logitech Performance Mouse MX Mayflower Objective2 + ODAC Rev. B Combo 
Audio
Audio-Technica ATH-A990Z 
CPUCPURAMHard Drive
ARM946E-S 67.028 MHz  ARM7TDMI 33.514 MHz  4 MB 256 kB 
OSMonitorMonitorPower
DS OS 3" 256×192 18-bit 3" 256×192 18-bit 850 mAh 
  hide details  
Reply
post #100 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by RagingCain View Post

AMD gave Sony a price lower than nVidia, making money on the backend (i.e. percentage of sales) != Hardware nVidia Couldn't Have Made.

AMD, work on your drivers, Skyrim is broken still.
Did you misread the title?
Money
(17 items)
 
Z575
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 7 1700 @ 3.8Ghz MSI B350 Pro Carbon GIGABYTE R9 390 8GB 1100/1650Mhz 16GB Team DDR4-3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
PNY CS1311 240GB - OS 2 x 2TB WD Black Raid 0 Synology DS416slim 4 x 1TB (raid 5) Corsair H100 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro ElementaryOS Loki LG 29UM67P 29" 2560x1080 FreeSync HPE 87 w/ Browns + Ducky PBT caps 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA 600W B2 Lian Li PCA05N Steelseries Rival 100 FiiO G10K + Philips SN9500HiFi 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A6-3420M @ 2.2Ghz 1.1v Lenovo Torpedo A55 6720g2 8GB Kingston 1600 CL9 
Hard DriveOSMouse
Samsung 840 250GB ElementaryOS x86_64 Abyssus 3.5G 
  hide details  
Reply
Money
(17 items)
 
Z575
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 7 1700 @ 3.8Ghz MSI B350 Pro Carbon GIGABYTE R9 390 8GB 1100/1650Mhz 16GB Team DDR4-3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
PNY CS1311 240GB - OS 2 x 2TB WD Black Raid 0 Synology DS416slim 4 x 1TB (raid 5) Corsair H100 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro ElementaryOS Loki LG 29UM67P 29" 2560x1080 FreeSync HPE 87 w/ Browns + Ducky PBT caps 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
EVGA 600W B2 Lian Li PCA05N Steelseries Rival 100 FiiO G10K + Philips SN9500HiFi 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A6-3420M @ 2.2Ghz 1.1v Lenovo Torpedo A55 6720g2 8GB Kingston 1600 CL9 
Hard DriveOSMouse
Samsung 840 250GB ElementaryOS x86_64 Abyssus 3.5G 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Tech-Radar]AMD on the PS4: We gave it the hardware Nvidia couldn't