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I love the choice in GPU and what I'm about ot say might start a mini-war but the truth hurts and denial is a B*....
but the GTX 680 is actually a stronger card then the HD 7970, only the HD 7970 GHZ Edition is stronger than the GTX 680.
not talking about the few compute task but gaming..
so by me you did the right move..

and if nVidia didn't try and lock the voltage in the BIOS things would be even better. but with a BIOS mod, no big deal.
some are afraid to mod their cards though.

the 256-bit interface is a detriment at higher resolutions and with high levels of AA but still the 4GB model is not worth it,
not for the GTX 670 more so but 680 included. the 4GB of VRAM can't be fully utilized...

as for the GTX 7 series, if a Kepler refresh like the GTX 5 series was/is to the GTX 4 series I'm looking for 15% improvements.
now if that is with higher clocks or widening of the bus, that I do not know. but searching for info because I'm curious.
I'll still go GTX 7 regardless but really waiting for Maxwell..
but next up give me a GTX 780 with 4GB of VRAM and 320-bit bus (my wishes)... and I get tingly thinking about it.
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Originally Posted by malmental View Post

NismoTyler - my TN homie... wink.gif

I love the choice in GPU and what I'm about ot say might start a mini-war but the truth hurts and denial is a B*....
but the GTX 680 is actually a stronger card then the HD 7970, only the HD 7970 GHZ Edition is stronger than the GTX 680.
not talking about the few compute task but gaming..
so by me you did the right move..

and if nVidia didn't try and lock the voltage in the BIOS things would be even better. but with a BIOS mod, no big deal.
some are afraid to mod their cards though.

the 256-bit interface is a detriment at higher resolutions and with high levels of AA but still the 4GB model is not worth it,
not for the GTX 670 more so but 680 included. the 4GB of VRAM can't be fully utilized...

as for the GTX 7 series, if a Kepler refresh like the GTX 5 series was/is to the GTX 4 series I'm looking for 15% improvements.
now if that is with higher clocks or widening of the bus, that I do not know. but searching for info because I'm curious.
I'll still go GTX 7 regardless but really waiting for Maxwell..
but next up give me a GTX 780 with 4GB of VRAM and 320-bit bus (my wishes)... and I get tingly thinking about it.
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To bad once you toss Overclocking into the equation even a 7950 can run with a gtx680.
A 7970 and 7970GE are the same clock for clock, if the GE is faster then the 680 so can the 7970.


Now if be default a 7970 runs at 925mhz, while a GTX680 at default will turbo to 1100mhz or even higher STOCK. So really Nvidia needs 175-200mhz over what the 7970 runs at to even match/beat it. So now take a 7970 @ 1250 vs a GTX680 @ 1350mhz, With only 100mhz Difference the GTX680 will be trailing the 7970 in nearly every benchmark. Also Don't Forget that GCN gains a bigger boost from Clock increases then Kepler does as well.
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To bad once you toss Overclocking into the equation even a 7950 can run with a gtx680.
When you overclock everything gets thrown out the window, even a basic GTX 680 can overclock very well.
I would look SLi GTX 670's, great driver suite/performance numbers for the price, remember they make a 4GB version as well.

It really all comes down to what resolution you play at, VRAM is quite overhhyped some times.
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If you're looking to waste money, get the 4gb version of the 670.
It might be useless for playing at a low resolution like 1080p, but at triple monitor (5760 x 1200 for example) and 1440p/1600p resolutions I can see 3GB-4GB VRAM quite handy.
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NismoTyler - my TN homie... wink.gif

I love the choice in GPU and what I'm about ot say might start a mini-war but the truth hurts and denial is a B*....
but the GTX 680 is actually a stronger card then the HD 7970, only the HD 7970 GHZ Edition is stronger than the GTX 680.
not talking about the few compute task but gaming..
so by me you did the right move..

and if nVidia didn't try and lock the voltage in the BIOS things would be even better. but with a BIOS mod, no big deal.
some are afraid to mod their cards though.

the 256-bit interface is a detriment at higher resolutions and with high levels of AA but still the 4GB model is not worth it,
not for the GTX 670 more so but 680 included. the 4GB of VRAM can't be fully utilized...

as for the GTX 7 series, if a Kepler refresh like the GTX 5 series was/is to the GTX 4 series I'm looking for 15% improvements.
now if that is with higher clocks or widening of the bus, that I do not know. but searching for info because I'm curious.
I'll still go GTX 7 regardless but really waiting for Maxwell..
but next up give me a GTX 780 with 4GB of VRAM and 320-bit bus (my wishes)... and I get tingly thinking about it.
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To bad once you toss Overclocking into the equation even a 7950 can run with a gtx680.
A 7970 and 7970GE are the same clock for clock, if the GE is faster then the 680 so can the 7970.


Now if be default a 7970 runs at 925mhz, while a GTX680 at default will turbo to 1100mhz or even higher STOCK. So really Nvidia needs 175-200mhz over what the 7970 runs at to even match/beat it. So now take a 7970 @ 1250 vs a GTX680 @ 1350mhz, With only 100mhz Difference the GTX680 will be trailing the 7970 in nearly every benchmark. Also Don't Forget that GCN gains a bigger boost from Clock increases then Kepler does as well.
benches and charts even ones floating all over OCN say exactly what I said, I know the truth must hurt but you must accept it..
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benches and charts even ones floating all over OCN say exactly what I said, I know the truth must hurt but you must accept it..


Your Comparing Stock, if Stock performance is all you care about then that is perfectly fine. Just don't get butt hurt over the fact that the GTX680 at stock has a pretty decent Clock Advantage that simply does not exist when Overclocking both cards. When Max AVG Overclocks of each card is only around 100mhz away from eachother, Simply not high enough for a GTX680 to overcome. FACT

There have been number of threads here on OCN that show just that, In Fact I have yet to see a Thread when Highly Overclocked GTX680's can overtake a Highly overclocked 7970. Simply because it just can't happen, unless your gonna saw your card in half toss in a better Power delivery system and put in under LN2.


Also The lack of Bandwidth makes the 4gb card pointless for the future. Sure it may work with some of the games that need that extra buffer zone to stretch but once we start getting games (next gen games are right around the corner) that Use a lot more V-Ram then current games have been using then only having 2GB of RAM will push people into the same problem I face. Dealing with keeping your v-ram in check. Now when Games start using more Memory the 256bit bus on the gtx680 will not be able to effectively handle it with 4GB cards. Simply isnt enough to handle 3-4GB of Pure Videogame Data without major frame loss. The 7970 because of this will last longer and will play future game at a more playable level.
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Same thing that always happens - guys with low self worth arguing the minutiae of Green vs Red for the umpteenth time and refusing to back down because they have nothing better to do.
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lol what the crap happened here
what happen is someone is in denial.... GTX 680 is only second to the HD 7970 GHZ Edition..
bottom line.

and his last post, TL/DR..
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what happen is someone is in denial.... GTX 680 is only second to the HD 7970 GHZ Edition..
bottom line.

and his last post, TL/DR..


yep, lots of denial in this thread

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
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though the source.... Tom's is highly questionable.. tongue.gif
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though the source.... Tom's is highly questionable.. tongue.gif
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