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Hello everyone. I decided to get into water cooling and so far its not going well. I purchased the XSPC Raystorm EX240 D5 kit and installed it. Everything seems to be working right and looking good but my temps under full load like Intel Burn Test get up to about 93 when oc'ed to 4.5ghz.. Also it doesnt seem to slowly climb to that. It will hover around 58 for half the test and then shoots up to the 90's. I did have a Hyper 212 Evo before this and temps got up to 86 at 4.5. Is there something I'm missing here. Maybe air in the line. I certainly dont see any bubbles or hear it. Any advice it greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Dennis

Forgot to mention that it idles at about 28-30 degrees

Does your CPU batch number start with an L and have the letter B in the middle? I am going to de-lid but not with my chip, I want a Costa Rica chip that's low volts / high heat (these have an A in the middle of the batch number) and is best suited to water cooling,

I will be using the block method,

These are my vCore to Temps (16oC ambient)

3.9Ghz = 1.110v - 35oC @100% on Prime95
4.2Ghz = 1.135v - 42oC @100% on Prime95
4.4Ghz = 1.200v - 48oC @100% on Prime95
4.6Ghz = 1.336v - 56oC @100% on Prime95
4.7Ghz = 1.395v - 68oC @100% on Prime95
4.8Ghz = 1.435v - 87oC @100% on Prime95
Edited by Liqu1dShadow - 3/31/13 at 11:11am
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Thanks I will check out that video and see how scary it looks. And on my overclock I havent actually touched the vcore myself, unless the bios adjusts it. All I did was change my multiplier from 34 to 45 and thats where it is stable.

Were you at 45 multi on air? Were temps better (comparing apples to apples)?

You are probably running more vcore than needed. I remember when I did the 'extreme OC' or whatever Asus calls it, the one button OC, and it set my multi to 46, yea it was stable, but at 1.38 vcore if memory serves. WAAAAYYY too high. I was able to get the vcore down to 1.3v before deciding to start testing at multi 47 instead. That drop in vcore really did a good thing to the temps. So after verifying that your block mount is good, and not overdoing the TIM as well, I would head into the BIOS and check what it has you set at. I would lower in .1 increments and do some priming for a few hours. Go down to where it starts getting unstable, then go up .1 and do a 12 hour prime.

Yea it can take some time, but once tweaked you will have it set where the chip is giving you the highest multi it can do stable, with a vcore that you can live with, with the best temps possible considering the OC.
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Were you at 45 multi on air? Were temps better (comparing apples to apples)?

You are probably running more vcore than needed. I remember when I did the 'extreme OC' or whatever Asus calls it, the one button OC, and it set my multi to 46, yea it was stable, but at 1.38 vcore if memory serves. WAAAAYYY too high. I was able to get the vcore down to 1.3v before deciding to start testing at multi 47 instead. That drop in vcore really did a good thing to the temps. So after verifying that your block mount is good, and not overdoing the TIM as well, I would head into the BIOS and check what it has you set at. I would lower in .1 increments and do some priming for a few hours. Go down to where it starts getting unstable, then go up .1 and do a 12 hour prime.

Yea it can take some time, but once tweaked you will have it set where the chip is giving you the highest multi it can do stable, with a vcore that you can live with, with the best temps possible considering the OC.

Remember there are multiple versions of the 3770k chip which all have VERY different vCore requirements, 4.6Ghz at 1.38vCore is not too high for the "B" chip, I have the B chip and I cant get 4.6Ghz stable any lower than 1.336vCore/1.340vCore and have put it at 1.390vCore just to keep it happy when playing Crysis, any less and it crashes. the table above are my defaults but Crysis just crashed all those setups for some reason so I have a Crysis profile in Asus tools for 4.4Ghz at 1.21vCore which its very stable at and never goes above 53oC.

Now if you have an "A" in the middle of your batch number then you could get 4.6Ghz at 1.24vCore, de-lid it and have it at 60oC on water, Its worth finding out what chip he has as it changes the advice we need to give him a little. I believe if the batch number starts with an "L" instead of a "3" these are worse still mad.gif

L = Malaysia
3 = Costa Rica

A = Low vCore and higher heat (Water Cooling)
B = Higher vCore lower heat (Air Cooling)

... and please check the plastic on the block, might sound stupid but... that's exactly what I did on air, was hitting 90oC at 4.5Ghz...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nELr8-_08s
Edited by Liqu1dShadow - 3/31/13 at 12:08pm
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Well I changed my vcore from auto and now have it stable at 1.26v and 4.5ghz . Max temp now with small fft prime95 is 70.
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Well I changed my vcore from auto and now have it stable at 1.26v and 4.5ghz . Max temp now with small fft prime95 is 70.

what you measuring your temp with?
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I was using Realtemp
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I was using Realtemp

RealTemp 3.0 by any chance?
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RealTemp 3.0 by any chance?

My mistake. . I did have Realtemp. I was actually using Core Temp 0.99.8
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It doesn't say but would appear there are a number of problems here. Room temperature, Thermal paste and mounting, as well as settings. You really need to see what your voltage is, and what you have set in your bios, if your settings are on auto this is going to happen, it might choose a huge amount of ridiculous voltage for your cpu, when in fact it doesn't need to. I have a 2500k that on auto thinks it needs 1.4 volts to run a 42 multiplier. That is just not correct, you will want to check and test things and set them accordingly. 45x multiplier should not be that high, Ivy does run hotter than sandy bridge, but you still should be getting with that cooler 50-60s maybe 70's but It should not go beyond that with the right setup and settings, What also is the airflow like in your case, where is it located in your house.
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70 is my maximum now. I have the vcore at 1.26 , ambient temp is 24. I used as5 as my paste.
Also.... is it worth it to de-lid I only have As5 or some paste that came with my Raystorm block?
Edited by netminder1976 - 4/1/13 at 1:08pm
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