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It is written like an Nvidia troll article I must say. The data may be solid but their conclusions are way off base in my opinion...
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

It is written like an Nvidia troll article I must say. The data may be solid but their conclusions are way off base in my opinion...

I feel the same way...Technically they are correct but you cant deny when xfire is running smooth with high FPS. Even if it is a "placebo effect" it feels the same to the end user as using Nvida SLi. So since the data is technically correct there are other aspects they are overlooking in the overall picture to convince me that is FCAT data is 100% "end user experience".
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I think all is left for fcat to do here is to search for latency issues on the end of the pipeline.. And maybe to write better drivers for amd and nvidia..

Seeing how identical the frame graph is between vsynced fraps and observed fps (fcat graph) they are just twins...
Need more tests to confirm this tho..
post #114 of 297
Wahhhh I should have waited for 4GB 680 for my 1440p display. BF3 tickles the ~1650-1800mb RAM usage, heavily modded skyrim the same, but I don't know if I will be able to max BF4. doh
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Technically they are correct but you cant deny when xfire is running smooth with high FPS. Even if it is a "placebo effect" it feels the same to the end user as using Nvida SLi.

I think that's kind of the issue though - a lot of reviewers have been saying for a while that CrossFire doesn't feel as smooth as SLI and that'spart of what lead to the development of these tools in the first place. Not many people have the opportunity to play with SLI and CrossFire rigs side-by-side or one immediately after the other, so end-users might not be noticing the issue as much as reviewers have.
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For someone who has vowed to never read one of these articles again, you sure do post a lot of worthless comments in the threads. You plan on contributing anything, or just keep on in this vein?
I know you know the difference, but Vsync syncs the framerate to the monitor refresh, it doesn't just cap it. Might want to be specific so it's clear in your post.
maybe if you cared to read before you post, you'd see where i found the quote from... rolleyes.gif

All this stuff was not an issue last year when Nvidia had better hardware at better prices, fast forward this year AMD is leading the charts in performance with amazing game bundles and destroying Nvidia in almost all price segments with great value and then these articles start popping up left and right. Now even CFX which beats everything Nvidia has to offer for the same price is being called useless biggrin.gif

It's not like these tools only became available this year. Seems like a smear campaign.
Edited by th3illusiveman - 3/30/13 at 8:03pm
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post #117 of 297
They're getting some pretty weird results. Even with "their" card, you can't even tell where MSI is even getting their FPS reading's from. So...are we just seeing that their card is actually faulty where there is a conflict between AMD's drivers and the drivers from the frame capture card?

Like, the Nvidia results are nearly identical to each other, but under the frame capture card the AMD one's average out like that? Maybe the capture card doesn't take into consideration the difference between crossfire and SLI. They aren't the same rendering techniques after all. Maybe they are capturing and recording frames incorrectly. Have they even used a high speed camera to validate their results?
Edited by Domino - 3/30/13 at 8:26pm
post #118 of 297
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To be honest, it sounds like you made up your mind before you even looked at any of the data.

We have a couple of those in this thread.
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maybe if you cared to read before you post, you'd see where i found the quote from... rolleyes.gif

All this stuff was not an issue last year when Nvidia had better hardware at better prices, fast forward this year AMD is leading the charts in performance with amazing game bundles and destroying Nvidia in almost all price segments with great value and then these articles start popping up left and right. Now even CFX which beats everything Nvidia has to offer for the same price is being called useless biggrin.gif

It's not like these tools only became available this year. Seems like a smear campaign.

I guess the fact that AMD has already said that they know their drivers have issues has no bearing whatsoever?
Edited by criminal - 3/30/13 at 8:18pm
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im convinced, get me some kool-aid, a titan, and get these awful 7970's away from me rolleyes.gif
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im convinced, get me some kool-aid, a titan, and get these awful 7970's away from me rolleyes.gif

It is no kool-aid sir, the Titan is awesome.
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