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LOL, so AMD tightened the frametimes in Skyrim after that debacle the other month...but nothing else?
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My understanding of this is that single card solutions are always better than multi gpu support. But, this has been known for years has it not? So, I don't quite understand the bickering that goes on. People like their respective brands and will protect those brands. It shouldn't matter what brand we all pick, it's like the console wars. I don't like 360 so I don't buy 360. Plain and simple. Let's keep it civil, guys.

There is an issue, definitely...With single or dual GPU you'll have more latency than nVidia, but I'm pretty sure it's because nVidia stepped their game up...Didn't TRs original review that started all of this actually show Fermi cards with latency comparable to the AMD ones?
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Good show indeed for the gtx titan. I'm very concerned about the stuttery mess that AMD GPUs are being revealed as....

I'm not the only one to report that it's mostly unnoticeable with a single GPU at least, there are times you notice it...But honestly, it's not any more or less stuttery (Bar low FPS scenarios) than my GTX 470 was.
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The latencies show up well on the graph but for what its worth the experience wasn't really all that different between the two (other than the Titans being more powerful).

This is something else that needs to be stressed...You can go on and on about this, but any techie worth anything should realize that this might not affect you in any way. Some people are more sensitive than others and would be best to go nVidia, others can go for whoever offers the best performance and features that they'd benefit from at their price range.
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You mean like you AMD users that like to band this image around?/quote]

That remains the first and only time I've seen that image...And I go on hardware sites fairly often.
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It's not though is it? What you've done is lock the frame rate to monitor refresh rate, you've asked your GPU you discard any frames that do not fit in that sequence. It's got nothing to do with 'doing it right', you've artificially limited output timing and your GPU isn't going to be under full load.

Once you remove that cap or limit, your GPU starts throwing frames left right and centre which results in runt frames and microstutter. There is a world of difference in artificially capping your output and letting the GPU stretch it's legs.

Not everyone wants to use vsync, or Radeon Pro. Do you not feel that we're going round and round in circles here a bit?

...Except it's a way to prevent the issue and still enjoy the superior price/performance of AMD this generation, also, RadeonPro offers a tonne of extra features and I know I've seen plenty of nVidia tools that do the same that are recommended and used by many people on this forum, vsync has definite disadvantages for some people but RadeonPro is nothing but benefits if you want to install it, much like nVidia Inspector.
Also, am I the only one who would actually like to have slightly less heat and power usage? Sure, my GPU might not be maxed out running vsync to keep Minecraft (For example, anyway) at 60fps rather than 300, but those extra frames are being wasted anyway and it means my GPU will be using less power and putting out less heat due to not being as heavily loaded.
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It is written like an Nvidia troll article I must say. The data may be solid but their conclusions are way off base in my opinion...

That's the problem I've had, I couldn't really see much of a mention of the vsync stuff in the final thoughts? IMO it's kind of a big deal as it means there's a fix until AMD actually makes the drivers fix it.
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I guess the fact that AMD has already said that they know their drivers have issues has no bearing whatsoever?

No-one is saying there aren't any issues, the issues are overblown like all hell right now though.
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LOL, so AMD tightened the frametimes in Skyrim after that debacle the other month...but nothing else?

It's weird, despite the big differences I'm not noticing any differences between 13.1 and 13.3 Beta 3 in Skyrim...Literally just stopped playing it too.
    
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nice.... I remember now, your ol' lady is the money maker.. tongue.gif

She makes a little more than me she's a surgeon and I'm the Anesthesiologist biggrin.gif

anyways back to framerating, I would rather have smooth gameplay than raw fps.....
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nice.... I remember now, your ol' lady is the money maker.. tongue.gif

She makes a little more than me she's a surgeon and I'm the Anesthesiologist biggrin.gif

anyways back to framerating, I would rather have smooth gameplay than raw fps.....
if you got funds like that then why the hell are you running 7950's in CF-X... rolleyes.giftongue.gifdoh.gifbuttkick.gifteaching.gif
and that old arse 1366..?
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if you got funds like that then why the hell are you running 7950's in CF-X... rolleyes.giftongue.gifdoh.gifbuttkick.gifteaching.gif
and that old arse 1366..?

Cause having money isn't always a good excuse to throw it away. Also, he just bought a house.
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if you got funds like that then why the hell are you running 7950's in CF-X... rolleyes.giftongue.gifdoh.gifbuttkick.gifteaching.gif
and that old arse 1366..?

sig is not up to date...I like it that way.biggrin.gif
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if you got funds like that then why the hell are you running 7950's in CF-X... rolleyes.giftongue.gifdoh.gifbuttkick.gifteaching.gif
and that old arse 1366..?

Cause having money isn't always a good excuse to throw it away. Also, he just bought a house.
joking...
then you were not on the thread that I referenced to in the past....
on that thread (sorry for being off topic) we all kinda revealed personal info...
so what I say is indeed in jest, it was a Titan thread..
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if you got funds like that then why the hell are you running 7950's in CF-X... rolleyes.giftongue.gifdoh.gifbuttkick.gifteaching.gif
and that old arse 1366..?

sig is not up to date...I like it that way.biggrin.gif
and I remember that too.... thumb.gif

edit: biggrin.gif
my 2500th post...!
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She makes a little more than me she's a surgeon and I'm the Anesthesiologist biggrin.gif

anyways back to framerating, I would rather have smooth gameplay than raw fps.....

Personally, I'd rather it be smooth than chase raw fps but forever round here it's been 'my card(s) destroys etc card(s)', and unfortunately I seem to see this much more from AMD users than I do Nvidia. Only the other day, int he Nvidia forum, the thread was '680 SLI or Titan', less than 5 friggin' posts in there was someone banging on how Crossfire 7970s would be better because of the raw fps. I'm sure there are some Nvidia users who are just as annoying but it seems to be a little more pronounced from the AMD camp.

This is only my perception of it though, depending on which threads you visit, you may come to an entirely different conclusion smile.gif
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Frame Metering is Nvidia's technology to help keep their dual card solutions in check. They should't have to make that public knowledge. AMD needs to develop their own.

i think that is the real essence of what AMD should be doing. (don't get me wrong, the Driver improvements are great too)


also, your avatar can almost change or enhance the meaning of your posts biggrin.gif (for example: "Titan is great" *looks avatar* well yeah it is now)
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