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I thought the problem with AMD that these Radeons WANT TO SHOW all the frames that's why they hiccup. Nvidia however intelligently manages the frames on driver level for smoother output. I believe if it was a simple work, AMD would've solved it already. They may be doing extensive re-coding in the disguise of "New Memory Management".
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Originally Posted by SniperTeamTango View Post

(oh, and my sig rig monitor specs aren't correct any longer btw, Im running 5x 1280, so 6752 x 1024 with correction, on 2 7950s smile.gif )
that's nice... my Surround is a bit smaller @ 3840 x 1024 with 4800 x 900 on the way..
call me a 'budget' Surround gamer.. redface.gif
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No you're right, however just as many people don't care about this unnoticeable frame dropping issue (we are afterall arguing tenths-hundredths of a second here, are we not?) I personally don't consider gaming at 1080p impressive, previous gens have done that well. Lets see something new.

(oh, and my sig rig monitor specs aren't correct any longer btw, Im running 5x 1280, so 6752 x 1024 with correction, on 2 7950s smile.gif )

Not to mention there's tons of other things that people aren't taking into account into which makes which better, again, one has compute the other doesn't. One supports quad gpu layouts, does the other? (I ask as I do not know.) One has better drivers. I'm so tired of inconsequential issues being brought into arguments that there is no way people are actually being harmed by to try and tip the scales.

AFK from this thread for a bit, was just told I was insane because I believe if someone wanted to steal my information, they wouldn't invent million dollar hardware to do it.

nice monitor setup thumb.gif what does it feel to use one? (because it sounds great but possibly not ideal)

the 660Ti is by hardware capable of supporting a quad setup but Nvidia (aka software level) only permits a Tri setup and wouldn't recognize a forth 660Ti. (not to mention that 660Ti Tri scaling is horrible, or at least AFAIK since i remember a few vids with benches that approve that but was quite the while ago)

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I thought the problem with AMD that these Radeons WANT TO SHOW all the frames that's why they hiccup. Nvidia however intelligently manages the frames on driver level for smoother output. I believe if it was a simple work, AMD would've solved it already. They may be doing extensive re-coding in the disguise of "New Memory Management".

Nvidia's tech is all hush hush so we don't exactly know what they are doing. (sure making order with frames but who knows maybe they have magic powder hiding in those CUDA cores)
but AMD on the other hand, besides the memory management thing they are working on, works on giving the end user the ability to trade the extreme perf for less stutter and it might be AMD's temporary answer to Nvidia's tech with frame management. (which might be integrated and improved by the 8000 series and i suspect that this is one of the reasons that this gen comes so late for the red camp)
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that's nice... my Surround is a bit smaller @ 3840 x 1024 with 4800 x 900 on the way..
call me a 'budget' Surround gamer.. redface.gif

Lol me too, I spent only 350 on screens. Got one for six bucks from a garage sale lol.
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nice monitor setup thumb.gif what does it feel to use one? (because it sounds great but possibly not ideal)

the 660Ti is by hardware capable of supporting a quad setup but Nvidia (aka software level) only permits a Tri setup and wouldn't recognize a forth 660Ti. (not to mention that 660Ti Tri scaling is horrible, or at least AFAIK since i remember a few vids with benches that approve that but was quite the while ago)

It's nice. Because its 5 smaller screens it has a more natural curve, and a 180 fov as opposed to 120. The trick to improvement would be identical monitors.

That's odd that they would software lock them like that, but they did that with 570s too didn't they?
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It's nice. Because its 5 smaller screens it has a more natural curve, and a 180 fov as opposed to 120. The trick to improvement would be identical monitors.

That's odd that they would software lock them like that, but they did that with 570s too didn't they?

yeah, does sound like a fun and nice setup. (good way to keep old yet still good monitors right)

Straight form the Nvidia website:
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SLI lets you link up to three GeForce GTX 660Tis together for astounding performance. (that is a bit of a stretch)

also, browsed the ASUS website to further confirm this but i've found something else: 3GB 660Ti ?
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Wait what the ****? Crossfire FPS is lower than with a single card? Come on, i know crossfire has issue but what the hell is that?

those particular graphs don't show the actual fps of 7970 crossfire, but the writer's take on what the user would perceive with 7970 crossfire. it's not actually performing worse (in that one area) than a single card.
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Frame latency and these "new" issues are such a big deal it seems, yet the person making a big deal out of it now, didn't even notice the problem existed until synthetic benchmarks showed them numbers. Considering most consumers don't get to go from one setup with nVidia to another with AMD to notice these issues easily, its easy to see why not so many people bring this up. But we have people who apparently do this for a living, who go from one setup to another and can compare them side by side. Even still, they couldn't notice this "issue" until synthetic benchmarks gave them numbers to show it.

Please tell me what happens in these forums when somebody claims something but has no proof to back it up?

Even when proof stares them right in the face we have people here who deny it.

Just like someone else stated, [H] Hardocp has mentioned before about the AMD cards not feeling as smooth as Nvidia. Does it break the game? Certainly not.

But now they have the tools to say why it doesn't feel as smooth.

The fact of the matter is this. All this negative publicity is doing one thing, giving the consumer a better product to buy because AMD is fixing it. That and only that is what counts in the end.
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^ AMD have been fixing it for a few months now.

No-one should be trying to use a GTX660Ti for multi-monitor gaming (memory size doesn't matter for multi monitors, but bandwidth does). And for the record, AMD and NVidia's lowest end cards all tout mulit-monitor gaming abilities )which is just stupid, but it's true)

And finally, linus tech tips... come on, that guy is a... I'm not going to say it, but I can't stand him or his videos.
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not a Linus fan either..
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^ I know right. That guy is so far up his up butt it's unbelievable. His voice is monotonous.
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