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Now that I've played a little while with my Titan, I'm starting to see a trend compared to my old 7970CF system. The trend is that of lower framerates but smoother experience.

The most shocking difference is in 3DMark11. With 7970CF it was a complete mess with disgusting amounts of stuttering and tearing, as I reported way before any of this PCPer stuff about it. My new system (at stock) only scores about P12200 vs. the over P17000 of my previous system (7970CF OC+i7-3820 OC), but it runs flawlessly and smooth as butter. As a benchmark, score is all that counts, but were it a game there is no question on which system I'd prefer. 7970CF would be an instant rejection.

Another benchmark showing the exact same thing is Metro 2033 benchmark. Again, 7970CF showed way better framerates, but stuttered like crazy. I'm not talking microstutter, I'm talking full on gaps. Again, I reported this way before PCPer started talking about frame rating. With Titan, I can even put PhysX on and despite the way lower framerate it is in a different league than 7970CF ever was judging with your eyes.

Third example that I've already come across is SWTOR with 4x supersampling, which I've played a lot with both systems, more so on 7970CF and I did my best to make it smooth with vsync settings and RadeonPro. No matter what, it was always jerky. Enter Titan and all of that is gone: smooth as silk.

So after just a few days of testing with Titan, I've gotten a clear confirmation that to me and my preferences, one Titan is clearly superior to 7970CF. It doesn't score big on benchmarks, but it plays better with games. You can call confirmation bias all you want, but the difference is clear as day to me. I've done blind testing a lot in audio and have come to realise that subjectively observed differencies tend to vanish in blind testing, but I'm positive I could nail this one with zero effort.

that's you...what about us with smoother experienced on crossfire....All those games that you mention run pretty smooth on mine.....No gap and no stuttering...so what now?
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Your M2033 benchmarks are not the norm.

M2033 is very smooth for me.
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There is a lot of arguing going on here that the only guys who slam AMD for stuttering are the ones who only have experience with Nvidia. I'll return the favor: have you guys had experience with a Titan?

Those are my findings and they are true. I've lived with both systems and my judging is clear.
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There is a lot of arguing going on here that the only guys who slam AMD for stuttering are the ones who only have experience with Nvidia. I'll return the favor: have you guys had experience with a Titan?

Those are my findings and they are true. I've lived with both systems and my judging is clear.

I'm not arguing that Titan is not smoother.

I'm arguing that your experience is not indicative of CFX performance.

I myself have both a CFX rig and SLI rig, and I regularly play on both.
The only game, I repeat only game I'll concede is more pleasurable on SLI is FC3.

Just ran m2033 on both rigs....

CFX



SLI




And I just dug up some BF3 runs...
Caspian border, half full 48 man server

Single



Dual


Edited by grunion - 4/7/13 at 10:57am
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Seriously, I'm not going to argue this anymore. I spent months with CF more tweaking than playing. Now that I got a setup that needs minimal tweaking to be a pleasure to play with, I'm not punishing myself by using more time arguing than playing. The problems with CF are there. If you don't mind then good for you, but how 'bout you let the information flow free and not hush about it? It is very relevant to others.
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More tweaking? How hard is to plant a profile on radeon pro with dfc + vsync and a bunch of other goodies and fire the game up?
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There is a lot of arguing going on here that the only guys who slam AMD for stuttering are the ones who only have experience with Nvidia. I'll return the favor: have you guys had experience with a Titan?

Those are my findings and they are true. I've lived with both systems and my judging is clear.

No need to experience the titan, my xfire Is perfectly fine on gaming and that is my findings....
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More tweaking? How hard is to plant a profile on radeon pro with dfc + vsync and a bunch of other goodies and fire the game up?

Not that hard. Hard comes when that don't do the trick, which was the case in two of the three cases I mentioned. There were many others.
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Not that hard. Hard comes when that don't do the trick, which was the case in two of the three cases I mentioned. There were many others.

Havent tried swtor at depth yet...

You mention metro which runs great on amd systems crossfire or not.
Then you mention screen tearing.... and ¬¬.. seriously...

But if it works out for you thats what matters... I love cruising around 1530P @ 20 frames XD
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Havent tried swtor at depth yet...

You mention metro which runs great on amd systems crossfire or not.
Then you mention screen tearing.... and ¬¬.. seriously...

But if it works out for you thats what matters... I love cruising around 1530P @ 20 frames XD

I love smooth gaming, beyond that fps numbers mean squat to me. I admit I, too, used to like fps numbers when I got my 7970CF. It's just that Titan is better although it has lower fps... Hmmm. What could cause something like that? Oh yes, that's what this thread is all about. biggrin.gif

And yes, I mention tearing in 3DMark11. That is the one case I didn't spend time tweaking. What would be the point of trying to get rid of tearing and stuttering in a benchmark? It just shows that there is way, way more to a good graphics experience than frame rates.
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