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Hi,

I'm planning to build an APU system consisting of the following

AMD 5800k
MSI FM2-A85XMA-P33
G-Skill 8GB DDR3 2133MHz RipjawsX CL11
Coolermaster Elite 342 Black Micro ATX Case With Elite 500W PSU
Coolermaster Hyper 212
Kingston 60GB SSDNow V300

£320/$490

My aim is to use this machine for general use and a bit of light gaming (Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite etc) but decent quality (med/high settings). My monitor is of resolution 1280x1024. I would also like to do some overclocking, would this board be sufficient?

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NO!!! Low end MSI boards are a serial killer, No VRM cooling will kill the board/chip/everything.

Get a ASRock, ASUSor Gigabyte. These are the hoghest quality boards and are bery good for the best part of them. Also, look for some 1866 CL9 instead, the gains from a higehr speed with lower latency doesnt help APUs, they like a nice mix
     
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I have. a non vrm MB and it's working perfectly from 8+ yrs its fine as long as you don't overclock your CPU
    
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post #4 of 13
A lot of the FM2 boards don't have VRM cooling, like the one in my sig.

It will be 'okay' but you may quickly be underwhelmed with the performance going forward.

I threw Bioshock Infinite on my HTPC in the sig for a quick benchmark test, at 1280x720 on ultra it only netted around 30-40 FPS depending on the scene. The extra card in dual graphics provides a 20-40% increase in most games so you'll likely quickly run out of steam if you ever want to turn up the detail or get a new monitor at some point to try to push 1080p+.
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I said anything but MSI as they have no VRM cooling AND use poor mosfets
     
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post #6 of 13
The memory that he choose is fine. For the vast majority of uses the higher clock speed will outweigh a marginal latency drop. I do agree that a different MB may be better if you plan on overclocking your processor much.
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies

I was juggling between two builds tbh, on one hand I have the FX6300 + GTX660/7850 and the other 5800k, but I am unsure if it's worth playing an extra £180 if I am only going to use a monitor with low res. Plus if I am to spend that much extra, I'd like the system to last a while before doing another major overhaul. The 5800k looks pretty amazing as to what it can do, but will it last? I don't want to regret getting it later down the line when I have to use low settings to achieve a decent frame rate. Not sure what to do lol wackosmiley.gif
Edited by haveanicelife - 3/31/13 at 9:48am
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post #8 of 13
FX6300 and 7850 will last a lot longer than 5800k, and personally I think it is worth it.
post #9 of 13
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Yeh that's what I'm leaning towards ATM. How is the following build?

AMD FX6300
AsRock 970 Extreme3
Asus AMD Radeon HD 7850 1GB
XFX PRO450W
Cooler Master Evo 212
Kingston 8GB 1600MHz CL9 1.35v

Would that motherboard be sufficient for decent overclocks?

And is it worth considering the Athlon 750k (FM2/Trinity)? I am still quite interested in APUs, especially Kaveri which I have read is supposed to be compatible with FM2.
Edited by haveanicelife - 3/31/13 at 11:13am
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post #10 of 13
No, get a 970a UD3, very good overclocker and I love it.
     
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WD Caviar Blue 1tb 7200RPM WD Caviar Blue 1tb 7200RPM WD Caviar Blue 500gb 7200RPM 120.5 Custom Loop 
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