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Possible, yes. Is it a WD Black? It will spin at a constant 7200rpm, whereas the Seagate may spin down/ up depending on usage. That's what I meant that it would be a slower performance and a potential waste of the faster HDD. But it will still be faster overall, as it has that 2nd drive it can use in RAID. As for Windows RAID, that is possible and just as fast from a RAID point of view, but since it is under Windows it will use resources that could be allocated elsewhere.

yes WD Black, interesting fact about Seagate, I will check how it performs in HD tune.
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what i am looking for is to have SSD on it's own as OS drive and two 1TB drives in RAID 0. I wanted to set this up in BIOS. All drives are connected on the same controller.
I hope this is possible, I will give it a try.

Possible, yes. Is it a WD Black? It will spin at a constant 7200rpm, whereas the Seagate may spin down/ up depending on usage. That's what I meant that it would be a slower performance and a potential waste of the faster HDD. But it will still be faster overall, as it has that 2nd drive it can use in RAID. As for Windows RAID, that is possible and just as fast from a RAID point of view, but since it is under Windows it will use resources that could be allocated elsewhere.
You are coming to conclusions based on no data...

Why would it be a variable RPM drive? They are both 7200RPM drives, he never stated both models...Yes performance may be different b/w the two, but the RAID array will still operate at ~2x the performance of the slower drive.
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Yes it is....Read this http://www.overclock.net/t/1227670/how-to-set-up-raid

I feel like you could have been done with all this if you listened to my original post in the first place...

I did check your guide, thank you, but i don't find my particular setup ie 1 SSD with OS currently installed and two HD as RAID 0. I think yours is taking about only 2 HDs as RAID 0? or I am mistaken? you are not specifying the hard drive setup.
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You are coming to conclusions based on no data...

Why would it be a variable RPM drive? They are both 7200RPM drives, he never stated both models...Yes performance may be different b/w the two, but the RAID array will still operate at ~2x the performance of the slower drive.

here are the specs:

1st drive: ST31000528AS
2nd drive: WD1002FAEX
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You are coming to conclusions based on no data...

Why would it be a variable RPM drive? They are both 7200RPM drives, he never stated both models...Yes performance may be different b/w the two, but the RAID array will still operate at ~2x the performance of the slower drive.

I wasn't drawing any conclusions. I merely presented my opinion that if that was the case, then it would be a waste to put a Black in a RAID 0 config with a slower drive but that it would still be faster compared to to single mode.
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Yes it is....Read this http://www.overclock.net/t/1227670/how-to-set-up-raid

I feel like you could have been done with all this if you listened to my original post in the first place...

I did check your guide, thank you, but i don't find my particular setup ie 1 SSD with OS currently installed and two HD as RAID 0. I think yours is taking about only 2 HDs as RAID 0? or I am mistaken? you are not specifying the hard drive setup.
It is a guide to set up any configuration you want.

Note any info on the drives will be lost when you do this, you can choose to keep the data from one drive during the construction of the array however if you choose, but backup any data you wish to keep before you make the array.

Set up Guide:Your OS installed already.
  1. DO THIS If you are not in RAID mode change your SATA mode to RAID, guide here: (link)
  2. Get the EXE: The once changed/set to RAID install the Intel rapid storage technology driver: (link)
  3. When installing click the Install the Control Center as well
  4. Then open the Intel Control center, go to Create > Select RAID level > select the drives drives > continue and create it.
  5. Once made it will build the array
  6. Let it finish building the array before you restart, if you restart before then it will have to rebuild again.
  7. Go to disk management once it is finished and expand the partition if you used a RAID level other than RAID 1.

OR, if you you want to use the intel OROM in the BIOS you can do this instead


Set up Guide 2:
  1. In the UEFI/BIOS set the SATA mode to Raid mode
  2. Then when you restart your PC hit Ctrl+I (or Ctrl + G or what it is for your motherboard, check the manual)
  3. After the splash screen appears when it shows a list of your SATA devices, it will take you to RAID setup menu.
  4. Choose create a raid volume
  5. Give your raid volume a name
  6. Choose your raid type (Raid0 or Raid 1, or whatever you wanna do)
  7. Choose the HDDs you wanna add to raid
  8. Choose your raid block/strip size
  9. Choose your capacity
  10. Now select confirm creation and choose Yes
  11. Now select Save and Exit and choose Yes
  12. It should reboot and you are done.
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You are coming to conclusions based on no data...

Why would it be a variable RPM drive? They are both 7200RPM drives, he never stated both models...Yes performance may be different b/w the two, but the RAID array will still operate at ~2x the performance of the slower drive.

I wasn't drawing any conclusions. I merely presented my opinion that if that was the case, then it would be a waste to put a Black in a RAID 0 config with a slower drive but that it would still be faster compared to to single mode.
You came to the conclusion that the seagate was slower and that it was a variable RPM drive...how is that not a conclusion?
post #17 of 26
lol, reread my last post, I said IF it was slower... - you even quoted it! And in my original post I used the word *may* - as in "if that is the case". Either way, I'm not out to argue with you my friend! I have nothing but respect for you an your guides are awesome.

As for Sean's guide, it will work the same whether you have a single SSD for your OS as without. Just install the OS with SATA mode set to AHCI, then set SATA mode to RAID and proceed to install the 2 HDD's. BIOS will still recognize the SSD with SATA mode set to RAID. At least that's how it worked on my board.
Edited by 8bitG33k - 3/30/13 at 5:11pm
post #18 of 26
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lol, reread my last post, I said IF it was slower... - you even quoted it! Either way, I'm not out to argue with you my friend! I have nothing but respect for you an your guides are awesome.
Sorry if I seem brash atm, im tired today and feel like nit picking things . redface.gif

I didnt see the if. haha. We now know that the Seagate is indeed slightly slower now that the OP listed the names of them. thumb.gif
post #19 of 26
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Set up Guide:Your OS installed already.
DO THIS If you are not in RAID mode change your SATA mode to RAID, guide here: (link)
Get the EXE: The once changed/set to RAID install the Intel rapid storage technology driver: (link)
When installing click the Install the Control Center as well
Then open the Intel Control center, go to Create > Select RAID level > select the drives drives > continue and create it.
Once made it will build the array
Let it finish building the array before you restart, if you restart before then it will have to rebuild again.
Go to disk management once it is finished and expand the partition if you used a RAID level other than RAID 1.

OR, if you you want to use the intel OROM in the BIOS you can do this instead


Set up Guide 2:
In the UEFI/BIOS set the SATA mode to Raid mode
Then when you restart your PC hit Ctrl+I (or Ctrl + G or what it is for your motherboard, check the manual)
After the splash screen appears when it shows a list of your SATA devices, it will take you to RAID setup menu.
Choose create a raid volume
Give your raid volume a name
Choose your raid type (Raid0 or Raid 1, or whatever you wanna do)
Choose the HDDs you wanna add to raid
Choose your raid block/strip size
Choose your capacity
Now select confirm creation and choose Yes
Now select Save and Exit and choose Yes
It should reboot and you are done.




what is the difference between the two setups?
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post #20 of 26
the first way you can create the array in the OS with the intel control center and you don't have to exit the OS. The second way you have to go into the BIOS and OROM to set yup the array. I like using the control center because it is easier and quicker.
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