Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › Why is FPS locking making my games smoother?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Why is FPS locking making my games smoother?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Weather it is my old 670 or my new Titan, whenever I lock my FPS to 59 on my previous monitor which was 1440p at 60hz, or to 119 on my new 120hz monitor, my games are silky smooth. Especially BF3. However if I dont cap my games via the MSI afterburner, my games are not as smooth.

 

I pretty much had this with the last few drivers.

 

I can not understand the logic behind this. Can anyone care to explain?

post #2 of 10
Basilcy, instead of the GPu running full pelt and spitting out 150FPS in some areas, its being conservative and only spitting out 120, so the extra power, is available when you need it and helps maintain the 120FPS, isntead of just tring its hardest to get even more
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3820 @ 4.5Ghz ASUS Rampage IV Formula X79 EVGA GTX 980 Ti Hybrid @ 1450/1900 Corsair Dominator 16gb @ 2.2GHz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
WD Caviar Blue 1tb 7200RPM WD Caviar Blue 1tb 7200RPM WD Caviar Blue 500gb 7200RPM 120.5 Custom Loop 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro x64 LG D2343P-BN 3D Monitor @ 70Hz Corsair K70 (MX Brown) Corsair AX Series 850w 
CaseMouseAudio
NZXT Switch 810 Black (Heavily Modded) Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Sennheiser HD 598 Cs 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-6300 @ 4.5Ghz Gigabyte 970A UD3 AMD HD8490 (OEM) @ 1.1Ghz Core/Mem Patriot Viper Xtreme 8gb @1600MHz 8-8-8-24 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
LiteOn Bluray Player Corsair Hydro Series H100i Zalman 120mm Led Fans x4 Windows 10 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Hitachi 24" 70Hz Monitor Logitech EX110 OCZ ZT 550w Full Modular Zalman Z9 Plus 
MouseAudioOther
DELL Wireless Mouse Logitech 5.1 Sound System TP-Link TL-WN781ND Wireless Card 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3820 @ 4.5Ghz ASUS Rampage IV Formula X79 EVGA GTX 980 Ti Hybrid @ 1450/1900 Corsair Dominator 16gb @ 2.2GHz C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
WD Caviar Blue 1tb 7200RPM WD Caviar Blue 1tb 7200RPM WD Caviar Blue 500gb 7200RPM 120.5 Custom Loop 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro x64 LG D2343P-BN 3D Monitor @ 70Hz Corsair K70 (MX Brown) Corsair AX Series 850w 
CaseMouseAudio
NZXT Switch 810 Black (Heavily Modded) Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Sennheiser HD 598 Cs 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-6300 @ 4.5Ghz Gigabyte 970A UD3 AMD HD8490 (OEM) @ 1.1Ghz Core/Mem Patriot Viper Xtreme 8gb @1600MHz 8-8-8-24 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
LiteOn Bluray Player Corsair Hydro Series H100i Zalman 120mm Led Fans x4 Windows 10 Pro x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Hitachi 24" 70Hz Monitor Logitech EX110 OCZ ZT 550w Full Modular Zalman Z9 Plus 
MouseAudioOther
DELL Wireless Mouse Logitech 5.1 Sound System TP-Link TL-WN781ND Wireless Card 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 10
But does that really work? So by your words i could cap my frames to 60 and i wouldnt never go under that if my gpus well over it but when it cant handle 60.. Lets say it can 55 when full auto then the extra power saving could help me maintain 60? I dont know but that seems hard to believe
 
Old rig
(7 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 4670k 4.6ghz @ 1.27v Gigabyte Z87-UD3H Nvidia MSI GTX 760 Sli - To be ordered Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mhz CL9 Single Channe... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1 TB WD 7200 RPM Hyper Evo 212 Push/Pull Win 8 Pro 64-bit Acer v223w 22 inches 
PowerCase
Corsair TX850 Cooler Master Gladiator 600 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel E1400 945GCM-S2L Intel HD Junk Kingston 1gb 667mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 250gb Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit HP w1907v 19 inches 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Old rig
(7 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 4670k 4.6ghz @ 1.27v Gigabyte Z87-UD3H Nvidia MSI GTX 760 Sli - To be ordered Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mhz CL9 Single Channe... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1 TB WD 7200 RPM Hyper Evo 212 Push/Pull Win 8 Pro 64-bit Acer v223w 22 inches 
PowerCase
Corsair TX850 Cooler Master Gladiator 600 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel E1400 945GCM-S2L Intel HD Junk Kingston 1gb 667mhz 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
Samsung 250gb Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit HP w1907v 19 inches 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 10
Is it the same to lock it to 59FPS as it is to lock it to 60FPS on a 60Hz screen?
3770K | Titan
(22 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7-3770K ASUS Maximus V Formula Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan X Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan X 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Force GT 120GB Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB Hitachi 2TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB Western Digital Caviar Green 4TB CM Hyper 212 EVO w/ Corsair SP120s in P/P 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit Benq BL3201PT Corsair Vengeance K95 Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 1000W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Special Edition Steelseries Rival Gigabyte Ghost Series MP8000 Schiit Gungnir 
AudioAudio
STAX SRM-323S STAX SR-009 
  hide details  
Reply
3770K | Titan
(22 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7-3770K ASUS Maximus V Formula Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan X Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan X 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Force GT 120GB Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB Hitachi 2TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB Western Digital Caviar Green 4TB CM Hyper 212 EVO w/ Corsair SP120s in P/P 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit Benq BL3201PT Corsair Vengeance K95 Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 1000W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Special Edition Steelseries Rival Gigabyte Ghost Series MP8000 Schiit Gungnir 
AudioAudio
STAX SRM-323S STAX SR-009 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PedroC1999 View Post

Basilcy, instead of the GPu running full pelt and spitting out 150FPS in some areas, its being conservative and only spitting out 120, so the extra power, is available when you need it and helps maintain the 120FPS, isntead of just tring its hardest to get even more

Yeah but I have that stuttering at FPS lower than 120 as well. Even if I get 90 FPS in BF3, the game stutters and can only be smooth when I FPS lock the game to 119. Interesting to be honest.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zvejniex View Post

But does that really work? So by your words i could cap my frames to 60 and i wouldnt never go under that if my gpus well over it but when it cant handle 60.. Lets say it can 55 when full auto then the extra power saving could help me maintain 60? I dont know but that seems hard to believe

No what I do is when I set my FPS lock to 119, the game never goes above 119 fps. I never use VSYNC with this method as well and the screen tearing is minimal. So this technique not only elimintas stuttering for me in some games, it also makes sure the screen tearing is extremely minimal which is not a bother as well. Hence no need to use vsync.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ahnafakeef View Post

Is it the same to lock it to 59FPS as it is to lock it to 60FPS on a 60Hz screen?

With my 60hz screen, I always locked it to 59 yes.

post #6 of 10
I believe that, when you look at a console per say, it locks at either 30 or 60fps to your TV. If you ever noticed, consoles don't have this "tearing" or "stuttering" problem. When you lock your FPS to your monitor, usually via "VSync", this makes sure that the FPS you get in game is in sync with the refresh rate on your monitor, causing you to stay at 60fps on a 60hz monitor or 120fps on a 120hz monitor, basically a frame per refresh.

This causes the motion to be extra smooth but may affect how your mouse moves or gameplay. Most people turn it off to get extra fps, usually I don't have the fastest system so I turn it off, but I noticed it in resident evil 6.
GamerTank
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5-750 2.66ghz @ 4.0ghz FPO/Batch# L010B859 EVGA P55 FTW LGA1156 Intel P55 EVGA GeForce GTX 570 SC with High Flow Bracket G.SKILL Ripjaws 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600mhz 240-pin 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - SATA Model iHAS124-04 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1 Asus VH238H 23" 2ms 250 cd/m2 ASCR 50,000,000:1 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Black USB Wired LED Backlighting OCZZ850M OCZ-Z Series 850W 80PLUS GOLD Modular Cooler Master HAF 932 with HAF X window side panel Logitech G400 USB Wired Optical Sensor 200-3600dpi 
Mouse Pad
steelseries QcK+/ XTRAC PADS Ripper 
  hide details  
Reply
GamerTank
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5-750 2.66ghz @ 4.0ghz FPO/Batch# L010B859 EVGA P55 FTW LGA1156 Intel P55 EVGA GeForce GTX 570 SC with High Flow Bracket G.SKILL Ripjaws 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600mhz 240-pin 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - SATA Model iHAS124-04 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Service Pack 1 Asus VH238H 23" 2ms 250 cd/m2 ASCR 50,000,000:1 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Black USB Wired LED Backlighting OCZZ850M OCZ-Z Series 850W 80PLUS GOLD Modular Cooler Master HAF 932 with HAF X window side panel Logitech G400 USB Wired Optical Sensor 200-3600dpi 
Mouse Pad
steelseries QcK+/ XTRAC PADS Ripper 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8800Gamer View Post

I believe that, when you look at a console per say, it locks at either 30 or 60fps to your TV. If you ever noticed, consoles don't have this "tearing" or "stuttering" problem. When you lock your FPS to your monitor, usually via "VSync", this makes sure that the FPS you get in game is in sync with the refresh rate on your monitor, causing you to stay at 60fps on a 60hz monitor or 120fps on a 120hz monitor, basically a frame per refresh.

This causes the motion to be extra smooth but may affect how your mouse moves or gameplay. Most people turn it off to get extra fps, usually I don't have the fastest system so I turn it off, but I noticed it in resident evil 6.


Logical explenation actually

 

+rep

 

One question though. When I lock my FPS via MSI afterburner, I believe I do not encounter any kind of input lag such as Vsync or Adaptive Vsync but I might be wrong.

post #8 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by iARDAs View Post


Logical explenation actually

+rep

One question though. When I lock my FPS via MSI afterburner, I believe I do not encounter any kind of input lag such as Vsync or Adaptive Vsync but I might be wrong.

True but fps limiting and vsync are totally different. One increases input lag (vysnc) other should not nothing unless its a driver/game problem.
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AMD Radeon R9 16GB DDR3-2400MHz  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AMD Radeon R9 16GB DDR3-2400MHz  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 10
I have a question about how you set that FPS lock

You start AB OSD/Rivatuner->Click Wrench/Setup->Under framerate limiter properties enter 59 as the framerate limit.

Correct?
Skylake 1080 FTW
(18 items)
 
XPS 15
(7 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700K  ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger EVGA 1080 FTW TridentZ DDR4-3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung SM951 128GB Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB Muskin Reactor 1TB Seagate Baracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 HDD 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Seagate Baracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 HDD Corsair H110i GT Windows 10 Pro  Acer XB321HK 32" 4K G-sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair K70 Rapid Fire EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 NZXT H440 Black Logitech G900  
Mouse PadOther
Razer Vespula CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD - PFC Sinewave UPS Syst... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-7700HQ 2.8Ghz(3.8Ghz Turbo) Dell XPS 15-9560 Nvidia GTX 1050 8GB DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
256GB PCIE SSD Windows 10 Pro 15.6" 1080p 
  hide details  
Reply
Skylake 1080 FTW
(18 items)
 
XPS 15
(7 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700K  ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger EVGA 1080 FTW TridentZ DDR4-3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung SM951 128GB Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB Muskin Reactor 1TB Seagate Baracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 HDD 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Seagate Baracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 HDD Corsair H110i GT Windows 10 Pro  Acer XB321HK 32" 4K G-sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair K70 Rapid Fire EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 NZXT H440 Black Logitech G900  
Mouse PadOther
Razer Vespula CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD - PFC Sinewave UPS Syst... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-7700HQ 2.8Ghz(3.8Ghz Turbo) Dell XPS 15-9560 Nvidia GTX 1050 8GB DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
256GB PCIE SSD Windows 10 Pro 15.6" 1080p 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post


True but fps limiting and vsync are totally different. One increases input lag (vysnc) other should not nothing unless its a driver/game problem.

Yeah. I honestly love this FPS limiting thing and wondering why Nvidia is not allowing us to do so via their own control panel.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

I have a question about how you set that FPS lock

You start AB OSD/Rivatuner->Click Wrench/Setup->Under framerate limiter properties enter 59 as the framerate limit.

Correct?

Exactly.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: NVIDIA
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › Why is FPS locking making my games smoother?