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Hi everyone, I'm looking for some insight here.

I have a 3570k on a Hyper 212 with Arctic Silver paste. It does 4.5 GHz with 1.2V, but when running this, my temperatures reach around 80C.

If I got a better cooler, say a Kraken X60, would that drop the temperatures down a fair amount compared to the 212, or are the temps going to be around the same, because this chip isn't delidded? I'm looking to see what this chip can do, like a 5 GHz run or something, but sadly winter is gone and no more -30C temperatures to test it in. frown.gif
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Maybe a custom Liquid Cooling could do that difference, take in mind that soldered IHS is much better than one using TIM thumb.gif

EDIT: CM Hyper 212 wont make a thing such a bottleneck bcuz they arent in contact with something soldered directly to die. or only with good contact... I forgot to mention this xD
Edited by PontiacGTX - 3/31/13 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

Maybe a custom Liquid Cooling could do that difference, take in mind that soldered IHS is much better than one using TIM thumb.gif
I know soldered on is much better than just TIM, but that's the way Ivy's are made, with TIM. By delidding it, you take off the old paste, and put better stuff on, and sometimes temperatures drop by around 20C.
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The 212 just isn't enough cooler for what you are trying to do. Simple as that.

212 is a good middle of the road cheap cooler.

Way too many people think the 212's are great because they have never used a premium cooler. The top twin tower cooler and several single tower coolers will lower the best temps a 212 can give by 10+c.

Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme . 43c (2500rpm)* thumbsupsmiley.png
Corsair H100 . 50c (2600rpm) lmaosmiley.gif
Corsair H100 . 51c (2000rpm)
Phanteks TC14PE 51c
Alpenfohn K2 . 52c
Silver Arrow SB-E . 52c
Noctua NH-D14 . 52.25c
Corsair H100 . 53.5c (1300rpm) Normal air cooler speed biggrin.gif
NZXT Havik 140 . 57.5c
TR Archon . . 58.5c
Alpenfohn Matterhorn . 59.75c
Hyper 212 Evo(2x/NF-120) . 61c
Hyper 212 Evo (stock) . 64.5c
Hyper 212 + . . . 64.75c

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/cooler_master_hyper_212_evo_cpu_cooler_review,12.html

*From this review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6xrsuPwDbo
Had same SA SB-E and H100 temps for comparison to Vortez review.
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

The 212 just isn't enough cooler for what you are trying to do. Simple as that.

212 is a good middle of the road cheap cooler.

Way too many people think the 212's are great because they have never used a premium cooler. The top twin tower cooler and several single tower coolers will lower the best temps a 212 can give by 10+c.

Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme . 43c (2500rpm)* thumbsupsmiley.png
Corsair H100 . 50c (2600rpm) lmaosmiley.gif
Corsair H100 . 51c (2000rpm)
Phanteks TC14PE 51c
Alpenfohn K2 . 52c
Silver Arrow SB-E . 52c
Noctua NH-D14 . 52.25c
Corsair H100 . 53.5c (1300rpm) Normal air cooler speed biggrin.gif
NZXT Havik 140 . 57.5c
TR Archon . . 58.5c
Alpenfohn Matterhorn . 59.75c
Hyper 212 Evo(2x/NF-120) . 61c
Hyper 212 Evo (stock) . 64.5c
Hyper 212 + . . . 64.75c

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/cooler_master_hyper_212_evo_cpu_cooler_review,12.html

*From this review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6xrsuPwDbo
Had same SA SB-E and H100 temps for comparison to Vortez review.

what about the kraken x60? i've heard it's better than the h100i.


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post #6 of 22
Why would you say bottleneck?thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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I have the Kraken X60 and my temps are "okay". The only main issue I see with it is that the place where the cpu contacts the cooler is ridged and not smooth.\
EDIT: Zoom in to this picture to see what I am talking about.
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

The 212 just isn't enough cooler for what you are trying to do. Simple as that.

212 is a good middle of the road cheap cooler.

Way too many people think the 212's are great because they have never used a premium cooler. The top twin tower cooler and several single tower coolers will lower the best temps a 212 can give by 10+c.
.

this^, if you want to do 5GHz on a 3570K stable you going to need a high end air cooler or a decent AIO system even custom water.. if you just want to boot into windows at 5GHz and validate you may be lucky and be able to do that with your hyper 212+ assuming when you say 80C is under 100% load tho i am not going to garrantee that lol.
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I'm at 4.7GHz with 1.275v and I never go over 60c during anything other than a P95 run for stability. Its OK to hit even 85c during stability testing. The only difference between my H212 and yours is I've have a makeshift shroud. Obviously your ambients must be much, much higher than mine.
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