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Sanity check: Is this sufficient for a 3770k and a nvidia Titan

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Hi,

I am rather new to liquid cooling. My only experience so far is my current setup with a Swiftech H220 cooling my i7 3770K.
I have replaced the fans on the H220 with a pair of NB eLoop B12-P running constantly @ ~700RPM.
With this setup I can OC the 3770K to 4,5GHz with a Vcore of 1,13V giving a max core temperature at 72C running Prime95 for 2 hours (ASUS Fan Xpert 2 reports max temperature for CPU as 46C).
The 3770K dissipates 81W at full load according to this

I am planning a new WC loop with the same CPU AND a GTX Titan VGA.
According to Guru3D the GTX Titan dissipates ~372W at full stress.
In total my loop should be able to handle a heat dissipation of ~453W when both the CPU and and GPU are at max load.

The case is a Fractal Design Define XL R2 which has limited space for radiators.

My current plan is as follows:
Front radiator: Alphacool XT45 240mm with fans in push/pull.
Top radiator: Alphacool ST30 240mm with fans in pull.
Back radiator: Alphacool XT45 120mm with fans in push/pull.

According to this water cooling guide this radiator setup should remove at least 500W of heat when running propper fans @ 1200 RPM.
Am I getting this correct (here is where the sanity check comes in, please!)???

One more question about fans:
I have tried running the NB e-loop B-12P @ 1200 RPM and the noiselevel they emit is a bit too loud.
5cm above the fans the noiselevel is ~60db and 1m away its ~30db.
Running the B-12P fans @ 700RPM the noise level 1m away is ~20DB which is acceptable.
I would like to control the fan speed with ASUS Fan Xpert 2 and for this I need 4-pin PWM fans (and a couple of 4-pin PWM fan cable splitters).

Are there any PWM controlled 4-pin radiator fans that would emit ~20db (real life ~20db) 1m away running @ 1200RPM suitable for cooling this loop?
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... Mother of god... 600mm of total radiator space....

Its sufficent. If your having an issue with fans becoming too loud, I know corsair offers some "Silent" edition fans, dunno how effective they are...
http://www.corsair.com/en/cpu-cooling-kits/air-series-fans/air-series-af120-quiet-edition-high-airflow-120mm-fan.html
 
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post #3 of 16
That's fine for that setup, you'll get pretty good temps as long as you have decent fans and liquid flow. Just a few questions:
  • Are you planning on using the pump on the H220?
  • What is the noise limit you would like on your fans? If you are after complete silence, I'd recommend NoiseBlockers, or Noctua fans.
  • Would you consider sacrificing the push pull on the thicker 2 radiators for just push and an even thicker radiator?

Still sounds like a pretty beefy setup biggrin.gif
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... Mother of god... 600mm of total radiator space....

Its sufficent.

Yes, I know it is a n00b question, but my head is about to explode from liquid cooling information overload :-)
You almost make me think that I can get on by running the NB eLoop B-12P fans @ 700RPM at load...
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Originally Posted by cards525 View Post

If your having an issue with fans becoming too loud, I know corsair offers some "Silent" edition fans, dunno how effective they are...
http://www.corsair.com/en/cpu-cooling-kits/air-series-fans/air-series-af120-quiet-edition-high-airflow-120mm-fan.html
I did stumple upon these as well, but they are 3-pin cabled fans.

Does anybody have experience with running the NB eLoop B-12PS @ 1200 RPM? I am considering these as well...
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You can stick w/ the eLoops. They will do fine even at 700rpm.
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... Mother of god... 600mm of total radiator space....

Its sufficent. If your having an issue with fans becoming too loud, I know corsair offers some "Silent" edition fans, dunno how effective they are...
http://www.corsair.com/en/cpu-cooling-kits/air-series-fans/air-series-af120-quiet-edition-high-airflow-120mm-fan.html

XD I've got 640mm of rad space in my current build and I'll have almost 1000mm of space in my overhaul XD
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XD I've got 640mm of rad space in my current build and I'll have almost 1000mm of space in my overhaul XD

1200 here. wink.gif
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1200 here. wink.gif

drool.gif mother of God D: why don't you just put your computer in a fridge? But I guess I'll have to step up my game wink.gif I'm "only" gonna be working with a CaseLabs SMH10 soon rolleyes.gif
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That's fine for that setup, you'll get pretty good temps as long as you have decent fans and liquid flow. Just a few questions:
  • Are you planning on using the pump on the H220?
No, actually my plan is to sell the H220 unit as I think the pump is to loud at higher RPM which I guess is need for a loop of this size. It's perfectly silent at low RPM...
Instead my plan is to get the MCP35X with the Swiftech MCP35X reservoir Ver. 2.
I did start a build log here, but I will have to revise it as I am no longer going with a GTX680 SLI setup. I believe the GTX680 SLI setup generates to much heat for the available radiator space, especially if I need it to be quiet at load(?).
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  • What is the noise limit you would like on your fans? If you are after complete silence, I'd recommend NoiseBlockers, or Noctua fans.
I would like the noise level of the entire rig to be max ~20db @ 1m distance as it is currently with the H220/eLoop fans. Overall silence is my main goal with this setup, so if it possible to make the noise level even more quieter then I am all ears!
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  • Would you consider sacrificing the push pull on the thicker 2 radiators for just push and an even thicker radiator?
Well... I believe I did read somewhere that thicker radiators need push/pull to be truly effective(?)
But again, if I can quiet this beast down, then I am all ears!

I just realized that eLoop fans sound-wise are not optimal for pull. For external visual niceness (no fans visible from outside) I really would like to run the top radiator (ST30 240mm) in a pull configuration. Would the Be Quiet Case Fan Silent Wings 2 1500 RPM be suitable for this?
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You can stick w/ the eLoops. They will do fine even at 700rpm.
Are you kidding me? Will running them at 700 RPM keep the system cool enough even at full load with this radiator setup?
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