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Originally Posted by Fuell View Post

Like this quote and most of the article, it seems the numbers are comparing SR to BD, not PD. So I'd not bank on seeing 30% more than PD. Gotta keep things in perspective, a tiny change in how they word things can completely change the meaning of their statement.

Plus, 30% over BD seems much more believable than 30% over PD.

Piledriver is mostly a tweak and reconfiguration that gave a considerable improvements but xbit put piledriver in same category as bulldozer it seems.
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Originally Posted by RussianC View Post

I really hope they can deliver. I really do. I just wanna see them get some sort of goodness even with the budget market. At least. If this one comes out a flop then there is no hope left for AMD.
But if they release a great performer then hell. I might even forget Skyline and go for it.

I really hope AMD delivers as well, without AMD stepping their game up Intel won't even bother to add cores to their CPUs.

p.s I don't think it will be the "Skyline" as Intel Engineer have denied "Skymont" being the correct code name(December Reddit AMA) for Skylake successor, it is far more likely for that code name to be "XXXlake" instead of "SkyXXX" b/c the recent trends of ending the code name with a water related noun.

Sandy Bridge
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30% over Bulldozer isn't bad and should put roughly on par with K10.5 in IPC and completely destroy it in IPS. PD already destroys Phenom II. I read somewhere that there would be a deca-core processor... Should make on par with Intel's SMT quads.
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more performance per watt and higher IPC? Sounds nice, but when in 2013? I just wish AMD managed to release it at or near Haswell's release date to give buyers a second option.

The best estimates I can come up with point to SR mainly competing with IB assuming my somewhat optimistic predictions are true, sadly I think it'll be the same with AMD mainly competing at highly threaded stuff...Maybe people will realize AMD is suitable for games finally with it. (They have been for a while, I still haven't noticed what's so fast about Intel from a gaming perspective apart from a handful of extremely CPU bound, single/dual threaded games)
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How will it compare to Ivy in terms of IPC

It's around even to ~56% slower than IvB depending on the scenario..What's more important right now (And always) is its IPS, as Haswell (And recent IB chips) can clock a lot better than previously.
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Will a new line of motherboards with PCI-E 3.0 be released as well? I m on the verge of building an intel machine, but if this is in the near future I would like to hold out and wait.

There's no real benefit unless you're running CFX/SLI, even then...AMD has cheap 16x/16x so you'll have equal bandwidth to a Socket 1155/1150 setup (Unless you spend on a board with a PCIe bridge) anyway.
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Originally Posted by Fuell View Post

Like this quote and most of the article, it seems the numbers are comparing SR to BD, not PD. So I'd not bank on seeing 30% more than PD. Gotta keep things in perspective, a tiny change in how they word things can completely change the meaning of their statement.

Plus, 30% over BD seems much more believable than 30% over PD.

Keep in mind the FX-8350 is actually just BD with a few improvements, iirc the only real Piledriver chips we've actually gotten are the Trinity APUs.
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I really hope AMD delivers as well, without AMD stepping their game up Intel won't even bother to add cores to their CPUs.

They don't have much reason even if AMD is competing, as it's down purely to marketing these days. Remember, AMD was ahead or equal to Intel while being a hell of a lot cheaper for a long time (K6 to Athlon64 x2, especially once Intel started with the RDRAM thing) but still only ever got up to 30% marketshare iirc.
    
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30% over Bulldozer isn't bad and should put roughly on par with K10.5 in IPC and completely destroy it in IPS. PD already destroys Phenom II. I read somewhere that there would be a deca-core processor... Should make on par with Intel's SMT quads.

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biggrin.gif I'd love 10 cores biggrin.gif Just for bragging rights, I don't do enough video converting to justify that tongue.gif
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I wouldn't mind moving back to AMD if they if they get a nice boost per clock of 10-15%, I always prefer the underdog and I stopped playing SCII......wait I'm gonna start GW2........ maybe 20% boost? *wishful thinking but a man can dream* tongue.gif

Anyways, just glad things are looking up for AMD and I'm sure they'll be able to pay off their debt in a few years if things continue to go well. thumb.gif
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They don't have much reason even if AMD is competing, as it's down purely to marketing these days. Remember, AMD was ahead or equal to Intel while being a hell of a lot cheaper for a long time (K6 to Athlon64 x2, especially once Intel started with the RDRAM thing) but still only ever got up to 30% marketshare iirc.

Intel did respond to Athlon64X2(2005) though, it made them abandon Prescott/Netburst & go to Conore/Core(2006). A Steamroller than can match/beat Haswell i7 in most performance benches would trigger a similar response.
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At least it will run Crysis 3 on par with the i5s at a cheaper price, hopefully. The Piledrivers came somewhat close to Ivy Bridge when it came to such heavily threaded game.

Which one will they release first? Kaveri APU or Steamroller CPU?
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Intel did respond to Athlon64X2(2005) though, it made them abandon Prescott/Netburst & go to Conore/Core(2006). A Steamroller than can match/beat Haswell i7 in most performance benches would trigger a similar response.

Exactly. Steamroller needs to destroy a 4770k. If it does we will see the first mainstream 6 core with Broadwell
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I really hope they can deliver. I really do. I just wanna see them get some sort of goodness even with the budget market. At least. If this one comes out a flop then there is no hope left for AMD.
But if they release a great performer then hell. I might even forget Skyline and go for it.

No hope for the enthusiast market, which is tiny. To be successful AMD needs to create better marketing and bonds with manufacturers, but that's a bit hard when intel is bribing companies to use their chips, and AMD can't even offer such deals because they're cash flow negative.
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