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No hope for the enthusiast market, which is tiny. To be successful AMD needs to create better marketing and bonds with manufacturers, but that's a bit hard when intel is bribing companies to use their chips, and AMD can't even offer such deals because they're cash flow negative.

Don't start with the intel conspiracy crap in this thread.
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post #32 of 718
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Exactly. Steamroller needs to destroy a 4770k. If it does we will see the first mainstream 6 core with Broadwell

In single-threaded tasks (Starcraft 2, Cities XL) or multi-threaded ones (Crysis 3, possibly BF4)?
post #33 of 718
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Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Don't start with the intel conspiracy crap in this thread.


It was an matter of time. mad.gif


I was happy to read this thread until now. R.I.P.
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I dont know how fast FX-8350 is but i know that 3770K is not really that fast and should not be that hard to beat. As a CPU in Intel side it might have advantages like 22nm, smaller die, build in GPU, lower power consumption but as far as performance goes its not that much better.
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I really hope AMD can properly get back in the gaming game with these. Will the fact that PS4 games will be coded on similar CPUs to these mean that AMD will get good performance for these titles when ported?

I will still probably buy intel, depending on chipset features, but competition is always good.
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Piledriver is mostly a tweak and reconfiguration that gave a considerable improvements but xbit put piledriver in same category as bulldozer it seems.

Correct.
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Keep in mind the FX-8350 is actually just BD with a few improvements, iirc the only real Piledriver chips we've actually gotten are the Trinity APUs.

And you guys quoted me why? PD gets better results than BD. So there is a difference performance wise. I'm simply pointing out the wording of the article indicates 30% improvements over BD, not PD. So those expecting 30% over PD chips are likely to be let down, as they are hoping for something thats not coming. Just trying to point out something some people seem to have missed.
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Don't start with the intel conspiracy crap in this thread.

The prospect of kickbacks in every industry exists and is well noted. The microprocessor industry is not immune to this. But I would say it goes both ways. It would be naive to not think both amd and Intel have done their fair share of shenanigans.
     
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It was an matter of time. mad.gif


I was happy to read this thread until now. R.I.P.

Lets hope it wont continue.

This is good news and I hope it is true, I would love to have an AMD rig to play around with and if steamroller delivers I might pass on Haswell.
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I really hope they can deliver. I really do. I just wanna see them get some sort of goodness even with the budget market. At least. If this one comes out a flop then there is no hope left for AMD.
But if they release a great performer then hell. I might even forget Skyline and go for it.

Skylake you mean? tongue.gif
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I dont know how fast FX-8350 is but i know that 3770K is not really that fast and should not be that hard to beat. As a CPU in Intel side it might have advantages like 22nm, smaller die, build in GPU, lower power consumption but as far as performance goes its not that much better.


It's mainly single thread that Intel is really stomping

i.e. stuff like this



and runaway power use when OCed



http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/zardon/intel-core-i7-2700k-review/12/
(i7-3770k@4.8GHz around 250W, i7-2600k @5GHz ~315W , i7-2600K @4.6GHz ~238W http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/05/01/intel-core-i5-3570k-cpu-review/7 ; see also http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2195927 ; http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-overclocking-efficiency,2850-9.html)
Edited by AlphaC - 3/31/13 at 5:32pm
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The prospect of kickbacks in every industry exists and is well noted. The microprocessor industry is not immune to this. But I would say it goes both ways. It would be naive to not think both amd and Intel have done their fair share of shenanigans.

Yes this is true, but many people tend to over exaggerate the shenanigans.
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