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Best post ever. Reps.

At first I thought he was being funny. But I see he is indeed being serious eek.gif

Indeed he is. The only ones who don't believe it's possible are the ones who have no idea what a custom compiled Gentoo install is or what Arch optimizations are for.

True, down to the bone, optimized linux installs let you use every little bonus that a CPU can do, especially with things like rendering. All those things people laugh at and say no one uses... AVX, FMA3, XOP... they all get used. Not to mention the obvious bonuses from a streamlined OS.

Too bad no one takes the time to set it up right. It's a lot of effort to get it to that state, but when it's there... Anyway, Intel can see some optimizations in Linux too, it's not just AMD. It just won't be as extreme.
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Indeed he is. The only ones who don't believe it's possible are the ones who have no idea what a custom compiled Gentoo install is or what Arch optimizations are for.

The way he wrote that paragraph sounds like he just puked some words and put it together.
   
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Indeed he is. The only ones who don't believe it's possible are the ones who have no idea what a custom compiled Gentoo install is or what Arch optimizations are for.

The way he wrote that paragraph sounds like he just puked some words and put it together.

Ya, no helping presentation I guess.

But, this is old news to me, he brought up the miracles of Custom Gentoo a long while back, when he first got it running. When people say Windows isn't optimized for AMD, they aren't kidding. tongue.gif
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But, this is old news to me, he brought up the miracles of Custom Gentoo a long while back, when he first got it running. When people say Windows isn't optimized for AMD, they aren't kidding. tongue.gif

You could tell me, thumb.gif

Software that is available for both platforms, when compiled with the right flags under a supporting kernel, runs faster on Bulldozer (even 1st gen) than in comparable Intel processors.

Nothing to be surprised of, most Windows software used (I don't know for sure now, but most certainly still is) Intel's x86 compiler, which pretty obviously, didn't have any kind of support for AMD-exclusive flags.
   
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I got the impression that BD was meant for servers and then adapted to AM3+. Piledriver improved on desktop-like workloads, and SR seems to be the perfect compromise between the two.

If AMD doesn't go belly up soon, who knows, things will only get better. I think, as everyone, BD was a rushed project. The reasons why? Who knows, at this point who cares? We can all say each time they improve a bit, you are seeing some good results. This is something Intel should be working on, a new implantation of their current chips to handle larger workloads. The more we get the hardware companies to create stuff that can back up the software end, things should move faster. I personally believe AMD is really gearing up for HSA, not just for their APU aspect (GPU/CPU) but for good multi-threading support to happen. Then they will have a chip that can do some hefty work and have something to show for it.

This will all dump into the APU tech, that's the goal. If they can fine tweak both discrete graphics and the (classic) CPU, the APU falls together. Once that happens, they will have few competitors when it comes to the APU market. If any real competitors, even if one of them has "processor power" they lack (horribly) the GPU prowess that AMD acquired. That's the long-term goal, lets hope they can get there. Consoles are going to help, lets hope it is in time. Seriously, AMD's doin pretty bad when it comes to financing.
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AMD is just wearing oversized shoes. They're like Intel, Nvidia, and Qualcomm rolled into one.

Bulldozer's hype was really for the future platform, not the grand opening. Now they're spiffed up their menu and using better quality ingredients.
    
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AMD is just wearing oversized shoes. They're like Intel, Nvidia, and Qualcomm rolled into one.

Bulldozer's hype was really for the future platform, not the grand opening. Now they're spiffed up their menu and using better quality ingredients.
You mean that they try to compete on all fronts?
Well I don't see what is wrong with that Samsung does it and IBM does it it is very good way of thriving business as you could make profits from multiple markets (However AMD's devisions are mostly making loses)
Solid trust in AMD I hope the PS4 and Xbox 720 deals go well, they ditch GF(greedy sand rabbits) and that they book success in the overrated tablet market biggrin.gif
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Imagine for a second if Anand or Toms did benchmarks like this kid lol... we would literally not know anything about computer hardware.

He's not off mark, I think I read this Phoronix review and another when PD came out, and was surprised at how competitive it was against Intel's 3770k, but then I noticed I was reading Linux reviews...
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You mean that they try to compete on all fronts?
Well I don't see what is wrong with that Samsung does it and IBM does it it is very good way of thriving business as you could make profits from multiple markets (However AMD's devisions are mostly making loses)
Solid trust in AMD I hope the PS4 and Xbox 720 deals go well, they ditch GF(greedy sand rabbits) and that they book success in the overrated tablet market biggrin.gif

Yea I'm all for the diversifying markets thing but you gotta be good at it. The way AMD is doing now, with $2.1 billion in depth, a watered down $1.5 billion market cap (down from $4.5 billion in 2008) and $1.3 billion in cash. They better do something quickly to change things or they'll be bought by an other company or just go bankrupt pretty soon (2013-2014). Although the latter is highly unlikely, AMD still has a few valuable assets but boy are they in free-fall.
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Yea I'm all for the diversifying markets thing but you gotta be good at it. The way AMD is doing now, with $2.1 billion in depth, a watered down $1.5 billion market cap (down from $4.5 billion in 2008) and $1.3 billion in cash. They better do something quickly to change things or they'll be bought by an other company or just go bankrupt pretty soon (2013-2014). Although the latter is highly unlikely, AMD still has a few valuable assets but boy are they in free-fall.

Alarmist nonsense like this is spread on a daily basis. AMD aren't going anywhere.
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