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Yes maybe someone should, although, I imagine an other method would be used. Otherwise, someone, at some point would've encountered it in the past 4 years. Or that's what I'm hoping anyway.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4079871855

Date is 2012, so obviously this is still going on. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more applications were like this.
Edited by Ryude - 4/5/13 at 2:58pm
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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4079871855

Date is 2012, so obviously this is still going on. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more applications were like this.

Oh wow... that's ridiculous. Why is nobody doing anything about that O_o ?
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Oh wow... that's ridiculous. Why is nobody doing anything about that O_o ?

If you pay attention, a question is brought up that is probably directly related:

"Or are you spoofing the CPUID to a CPU that doesn't support SSE / AVX, resulting in slower performance from a fallback to x87 FPU math?"

Some opt flags are still useful, so you don't always run the most generic code. SSE vs x87 makes a HUGE difference, Skyrim? It might also be noted that MS could very well use the Intel compiler, which would skew results pretty bad. I doubt that is the case, since you don't see benchmark software being as unanimously bad as it was before. Anyways, we would need to figure out why it slows down and then decide what the cause is. The guy stopped responding, presumably because he screwed up on the test and didn't realize one CPU supported something the other didn't.
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We all know you love Intel but come on. You can stop with the exaggerations now. The 3770k lost pretty badly in this one.


Ugh...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_fx8350_visherabdver2&num=5

Completely ignoring the fact that ONLY the FX was overclocked to 4.6 while the Intel was kept at 3.5 lol.

Yeah you go ahead and advocate that FX. The reality is IB is better.
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You mean like how Intel's slowest 10-core is 105w TDP and all the others are 130w TPD? AMD's biggest is 140w TDP. Everything below that, including the four other 16-core chips, is 115W TDP. Sorry, one of the 16-core chips is 85w TDP.

So about that power/performance ratio...
Power consumption not Thermal design power.
Amd's solution are just less power efficient/performance that is a fact and I wish it was the other way around as that would save me a lot of money on my hobby.
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Power consumption not Thermal design power.
Amd's solution are just less power efficient/performance that is a fact and I wish it was the other way around as that would save me a lot of money on my hobby.

Yup, even AMD acknowledged that it needs to work on power consumption and that it isn't directly related to the manufacturing process.
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Interesting read excelent.
Pretty shocking though but on the other hand this is good news this means that amd's solutions for upcoming consoles will really shine bright especially if you consider they are holding 1.8TFlops single in gpu power.(where the cpu was critisized as weak it will show its true potential)
With optimized coding those things might make next gen games look greater again biggrin.gif
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Up to what point is AMD fans dealing with the color of the Sky being Intel Blue?

OT: MS did promise Win8 would involve tweaks that improve Bulldozer performance, but it seems like the difference is negligible.

Sorry if you can't see past your prejudices.

I asked an actual question. I am actually curious what features of AMD's processors can Windows use, and which ones cannot. And the same for Intel. And compare its effects on system performance.

If Linux can squeeze a very nice margin of performance out of an FX to the point it can even beat an i7, why Windows can not?
   
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Sorry if you can't see past your prejudices.

I asked an actual question. I am actually curious what features of AMD's processors can Windows use, and which ones cannot. And the same for Intel. And compare its effects on system performance.

If Linux can squeeze a very nice margin of performance out of an FX to the point it can even beat an i7, why Windows can not?
Windows programs aren't multi threaded much that is why.
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