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I do hope this is true. It's nice to see that AMD are getting back on track to compete with Intel. I am an Intel CPU user but I want the day to come where I will buy an AMD CPU.
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Don't start with the intel conspiracy crap in this thread.

Why do you stick your head in the sand perhaps the truth hurts? rolleyes.gif

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/business/global/14compete.html?pagewanted=all
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8350 already matches or beats the 3770k in quite a few games/benches/tasks, It also sits right inline with the 3570k while costing less (Microcenter not included) Imo lets worry about matching the 4770k first, THEN get pcie 3.0, Sata 3.0 and usb 3.0 onboard.
X86 is already dying, It's starting to lose share in favour of x64, Most apps being launched have an x64 variant, I don't think a deal would need to be struck if x64 is dominant enough by then, Think do we use 16 bit applications anymore?

If x64 is thriving then x86 is thriving as well, x64 is short for x86-64, thus it is impossible for x86 to lose share to x86-64 as x86-64 is a part of x86.
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If they re-negotiate that X86-64 cross licensing agreement AMD either have to go ARM or hand over HSA for sharing, as long as AMD's main business is x86 Intel can get whatever new AMD Tech they want and same goes for Intel.

Actually, HSA is technically a property shared by the HSA Foundation. Which means Intel would either have to join it to get the license, or fight a legal battle against an organization backed by Samsung, Texas Instruments, ARM, AMD, Qualcomm, OD Imagination, MediaTek, and possibly LG Electronics.

Most likely Intel is going to be stubborn and find a substitute for HSA, such as incorporating their Xeon Phi into their regular CPUs.
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Actually, HSA is technically a property shared by the HSA Foundation. Which means Intel would either have to join it to get the license, or fight a legal battle against an organization backed by Samsung, Texas Instruments, ARM, AMD, Qualcomm, OD Imagination, MediaTek, and possibly LG Electronics.

Most likely Intel is going to be stubborn and find a substitute for HSA, such as incorporating their Xeon Phi into their regular CPUs.

Like Intel went stubborn with AMD 64? Nah they just got it and named it Intel 64. Intel will join HSA when the time is right., and once they do that decisive fabrication advantage will put HSA to good use.
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Well, AMD, it was fun this time around, but you don't have any proper AM3 ITX boards whatsoever and I'm tired of the big case scene.

Get on some mITX boards, and I might considering staying red.
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Well, AMD, it was fun this time around, but you don't have any proper AM3 ITX boards whatsoever and I'm tired of the big case scene.

Get on some mITX boards, and I might considering staying red.

There are A85 FM2 MITX boards, but if you want performance on MITX platform Intel is the only way because their superior fabs.
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I seriously hope this is true.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't. 30% is a lot and I don't think the main purpose of steamroller was to increase IPC a lot, but rather increase parallel processing. Either way, I really really wish this is true.

2cents.gif

EDIT :
Is it just me or are they slowly going back to fully fledged cores ?
Better. They are using the performance gains of a full core with the efficiency of shared resources and a better cache system.
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There are A85 FM2 MITX boards, but if you want performance on MITX platform Intel is the only way because their superior fabs.

I like FM2, but it's a waste of money if I'm sticking with discrete cards. FM2 is good for a lite $300 APU build... wouldn't want an A10 as a processor with a 7970 or 680 though. Probably going to be grabbing a 4570k or something similar within the next year for my SFF build. I've been putting it off for a while and it doesnt seem like any AIB's are bothering with AM3 itx boards (and for understandable reasons).
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I think Steamroller outperforming Haswell is a little bit too optimistic, to be honest..

but one can hope.
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