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there still is no validity to the argument that everyone knows intel motherboards are more expensive than amd. and that is what i am replying to.

Show me an AMD board that isn't cheaper than its Intel equivalent.

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Congrats. You can't even read graphs. What more can I expect out of AMD fans these days?

So that's all you have to say with no proof to refute my argument? Let me point it out for you since you're blind. The FX-8350 at STOCK completed that bench in 23:34. The 3770k completed it in 33:05. The OVERCLOCKED FX-8350 completed the bench in 20:30. The stock FX-8350 handily beats the stock 3770k in that bench.
Edited by computerparts - 4/5/13 at 7:06pm
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Show me an AMD board that isn't cheaper than its Intel equivalent.

no, the shoe is on the other foot, show me an amd board cheaper than the intel equivalent - see how that works?

in the meantime there this cat thats convinced his PSU is causing the mouse to lag while playing CS:GO. i think i ought to stop him from spending more $$$ for nothing instead of wasting my time here.
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LOL! i can appreciate the time and effort you put into gathering your "information". however i find a major flaw with your prices; they are all from newegg. now if all etailers set their prices the same then its all good. but by helping several hundreds of folks find the best pricing for their builds newegg isn't always the best, thats why i linked to pcpartpicker. now you may pointed out certain manufacturer's pricing is just not logical. but lets take for instance the $90 mobo you posted:

GIGABYTE GA-970A-D3 $89.99
and compare it to:
GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3 $79.99

so what is the $10 difference?
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/comparison/list.aspx?ck=2&pids=4122,3908

though the DS has 2 more USB headers and 6 channel audio I/O and " Trusted Platform Module (TPM) header" (whatever that is) it appears the D3 is worth the $10 because it has Realtek GbE LAN chip instead of the Realtek RTL8111E chip ??? so not disputing that part

now where you get the $20 difference is a bit mysterious to me. but still its all well and good if there is a discussion on why motherboard manufacturers set their prices and why an etailer would adjust them for sales. however they you may find a detail that would dispute pricing as far as features, ok i ought to amend that to features and component quality

there still is no validity to the argument that everyone knows intel motherboards are more expensive than amd. and that is what i am replying to.

but dude seriously? you spent that time and effort just to prove . . . . what now? oh that mysteriously you get $20 to spend on a case if you go for AMD. . . go poke someone else.


It was a random number, I didn't mean any specific case. As the saving $20 was to be used as an example (just as in the same sentence, it was used as an example of where you can spend it), thought somebody would be able to infer I was using examples. My lack of specifics was done intentionally. I wasn't trying to give the impression the cost save was much, as far as motherboards go it isn't. Hence why I also stated when you compare the price difference to the CPU price difference, it's negligible. Not the same wording, same concept.

I also used Newegg as a baseline, because without setting a base line we get into which retailer is cheaper. That skews the pricing, hence why some people on here only talk about MSRP prices. Anything else makes things more difficult. If you don't like logic, I suggest you don't argue people who are going to use it.

We are done here.
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It was a random number, I didn't mean any specific case. As the saving $20 was to be used as an example (just as in the same sentence, it was used as an example of where you can spend it), thought somebody would be able to infer I was using examples. My lack of specifics was done intentionally. I wasn't trying to give the impression the cost save was much, as far as motherboards go it isn't. Hence why I also stated when you compare the price difference to the CPU price difference, it's negligible. Not the same wording, same concept.

I also used Newegg as a baseline, because without setting a base line we get into which retailer is cheaper. That skews the pricing, hence why some people on here only talk about MSRP prices. Anything else makes things more difficult. If you don't like logic, I suggest you don't argue people who are going to use it.

We are done here.
its not as difficult as you're trying to make it. as i posted before:
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#s=4,22,14&sort=a6
am3/am3+ vs 1155 sockets pricing. one ECS board that is $5 cheaper than anything else but, other than that all along the pricing for both sockets are the same. (pssst the rebates are NOT included)
so because i don't agree that using newegg as a pricing baseline and pointed out why, i don't use logic?
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no, the shoe is on the other foot, show me an amd board cheaper than the intel equivalent - see how that works?

in the meantime there this cat thats convinced his PSU is causing the mouse to lag while playing CS:GO. i think i ought to stop him from spending more $$$ for nothing instead of wasting my time here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877 Asus 990FX Sabertooth $179

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131821 Asus Z77 Sabertooth $239


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130649&Tpk=990fxa-gd80&IsVirtualParent=1 MSI 990FXA-GD80 $149.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130642&Tpk=z77%20gd80&IsVirtualParent=1 MSI Z77A-GD80 $239.99


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157358 ASRock 990FX Extreme9 $159.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157322 ASRock Z77 Extreme9 $299.99

What were you saying again?
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i am saying that intel board with the same features are not more expensive than the amd boards. maybe read what i posted about only using newegg prices too.

now how about instead of just looking at brand names you put some effort into it????

here some help:
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#s=4,22,14&sort=a6

good luck. thumb.gif
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i am saying that intel board with the same features are not more expensive than the amd boards.

now how about instead of just looking at brand names you put some effort into it????

I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong where I said AMD boards are cheaper than their Intel equivalents
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I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong where I said AMD boards are cheaper than their Intel equivalents

you still haven't posted anything yourself. look above at the edit and have fun. and member the point:
equivalents not brand names . .


edit: oh yeah, how is the PCI 3.0 working out on those . .oh nevermind . . .
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amd_opteron_plans_roadmap_steamroller.jpg&width=550&height=276&cache=1&quality=88&aspect=0&format=
amd_steamroller_1.jpg&width=550&height=314&cache=1&quality=88&aspect=0&format=jpg
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If that graph is accurate, it looks like we'll see a far greater increase in performance going from Steamroller to Excavator than from Piledriver to Steamroller. The graph suggests that performance is increasing exponentially, which is not what is happening.
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you still haven't posted anything yourself. look above at the edit and have fun. and member the point:
equivalents not brand names . .

A Z77 Sabertooth is the Intel equivalent of a 990FXA Sabertooth. Sabertooth is the model of the board. It's not a brand name lol. Brand name would be the manufacturer ie: Asus. But thank you for pointing out your lack of education. I suggest you spend more time doing your homework than trolling the forums.
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