Originally Posted by looniam
so you're telling me that because you have a friend who owns a studio that you know how to operate it? or a friend who is a DJ that you know how to DJ? or that you may have pushed around a few amp racks that you know how to operate those? yeah, i got a friend who owns a law practice so that makes me qualified to speak and give an opinion about constitutional law . . .
dude get a grip, you can't get back whatever quality/information you threw out by converting the audio file to 16 bit. same thing with an image file; take a 300-dpi image and zoom to 300%. downsize that to 75dpi and then back to 300dpi. when you zoom that back to 300% you'll see a bunch of pixelation that wasn't there before because of the information thrown out. that is the same as saying you can watch a 720p video and full screened on a 1080p monitor will be a 1080p movie. thats way i told you you're wrong in saying master recordings are 16 bit. 24 bit has a lot more headroom and dynamics to work with/ listen to.
okay have it your way, loudness helps the perception but when there is a lower quality audio DAC you will hear more garbage. if you just sit there and only listen to low quality garbage, well i see what your saying, because you're increasing the noise it blocking you from perceiving the differences you would when the volume is lower. i have no idea how to explain it any simpler than that.
i really am past the point of giving a crap - sure have it your way again.
two thumps up
at the wiki reference instead of maybe going to a medical body of knowledge for that. btw, maybe you ought to let them (wiki) know that its HEARD
and not HERD
easy breezy, i just asked some questions as to what your motivation is not conjuring anything for my mental health. we can go back in the history on the thread and see who decided to make a mountain out of the molehill as far as an onboard DAC chip. now if you really believe my mental sanity is in question and i conjure up things; along with being a dick, moron, a baby and pedantic, (excuse me if i missed a few things) why are you still replying??
- I didn't say I know how a studio works, I just said I know what format the public gets. Which isn't the same thing, again your assuming I mean something else. Whatev
- I know what lost data means. That doesn't stop companies from pushing high quality sound that originally came from a low quality format, that's the point. It's been known to happen, time and time again. I've acknowledge they have higher quality sources, when didn't I?
- The loudness concept is close. another way of thinking about it is the brain can only handle data of a certain size. Even though the audio doesn't change, increased decibles increase the "data" that pipes to your brain. Think of it as throttling, the unfortunate side effect is that lost data gets re-constructed by your brain. We have actual proof of concept tests you can do at home, ever herd of the blind spot? Your brain actively alters perception and reality when it cannot get the full amount of data. This happens whether or not your brain is actively blocking informaiton, on the cases it does you can assume without a doubt what you are currently perceiving is partly imaginary.
- My bad for having a grammar error, you want me to go through your posts and point out the same faults? I don't think that matters, it's just a low jab you are trying to make. Nice try though. At least now you understand that the ringing is an understood concept with a term coined to it. Good job.
- As for replying, when you don't have a job filling the time becomes pretty fundamental. I can only game so long, play guitar so long, write/draw so long. Watch so many TV shows, movies, ect... Eventually things need to be changed up a bit, so you'll see me on here to pass the time.
Originally Posted by computerparts
Do you mean that those studios are recording in 24 bit and then down sizing to 16 bit? This just doesn't make sense to me. Why not keep it at 24 bit?
Yeah that sums it it up. Their are multiple reasons not to keep it, all of them money related. If you have to press CDs that would mean another conversion to 16bit audio. If your track isn't set up that way, the artist could argue that the company pressing the CDs botched the compression or something. So the studio makes the format equal to what the pressed CD is. If you are already going to press CDs and make a 16bit audio, why keep two tracks? Ditch the 24bit track, saves space which equals money. At that point, why even make a 24bit track? Who is going to tell the difference? Needless to say audio tracks have been around for ages, 24bit sound has been around for ages. So far, 16bit audio tracks in the music industry seems to do well. Why change what works? DVDs and other types of audio come in 24bit, because traditionally it's been done that way.
Things are probably changing, more studios moving to higher quality music but I doubt the change is going to be that quick. MP3s still sell like hot cakes and sound "fine" to the average person at 16bit so..... Again, why change what works?Edited by mushroomboy - 4/6/13 at 2:11pm