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yea i hope so too please amd make the quad core worth buying
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Cleaned.

Let's keep this thread on topic please.
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Cleaned.

Let's keep this thread on topic please.

wheee.gif

Quick question. How good (or bad) will SR's IMC be? Because if Kaveri is based on it, and AMD already said they need to increase the bandwidth for the IGP by a large margin for it to perform properly...

Will we get an IMC at the levels of the old Athlon64s? rolleyes.gif
   
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That is with the decoder bottleneck, which by itself makes scaling within modules somewhere around 1.7x instead of near 2x performance.

Steamroller will remove these bottlenecks as well as improve single threaded performance, supposedly by at least 20% or so. These two factors combined should make the 8-core Steamroller more than a match for the 4-core hyperthreaded Haswell in multithreaded applications.

Edit: Besides, I was making a hypothetical case where Steamroller does offer the per core performance of SB. I don't think it will, but I think it will come close.

Steamroller also has a MicroOp cache, which helps a lot with the branch misprediction penalty too. (Which is the main bad part of having a long pipeline)
SR is going to be great, but I don't think it'll be much better off versus Haswell than Piledriver is now..Unless those 10% benchmarks are true, but even then SR wouldn't really compete until you're talking semi-multithreaded stuff.
    
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wheee.gif

Quick question. How good (or bad) will SR's IMC be? Because if Kaveri is based on it, and AMD already said they need to increase the bandwidth for the IGP by a large margin for it to perform properly...

Will we get an IMC at the levels of the old Athlon64s? rolleyes.gif

No one really knows. And based on AMD's intentional misleading of the public before Bulldozer's release (remember JF-AMD?), I wouldn't trust any speculative performance claims from them. You'll just have to wait until the benches come out.
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No one really knows. And based on AMD's intentional misleading of the public before Bulldozer's release (remember JF-AMD?), I wouldn't trust any speculative performance claims from them. You'll just have to wait until the benches come out.

JF was a server guy (he repeated this over and over). And Interlagos has higher IPC and performance than Magny-Cours, so he didn't lie concerning the parts that he got to test.
   
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wheee.gif

Quick question. How good (or bad) will SR's IMC be? Because if Kaveri is based on it, and AMD already said they need to increase the bandwidth for the IGP by a large margin for it to perform properly...

Will we get an IMC at the levels of the old Athlon64s? rolleyes.gif

The Excavator will have the IMC improvements, SR does not change IMC. At least everything I have read points to Excavator relating to IMC.

Edit: I remember reading this: AMD Kaveri bear two memory controllers: DDR3 and GDDR5.
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The Excavator will have the IMC improvements, SR does not change IMC. At least everything I have read points to Excavator relating to IMC.

Edit: I remember reading this: AMD Kaveri bear two memory controllers: DDR3 and GDDR5.

So the whole bandwidth boost comes from OoB support for DDR3-2500? Well frown.gif

I'm not changing motherboards too for GDDR5 support, you can count on that.
   
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The GDDR5 capabilities is most likely for embedded systems, like tablets, small all-in-one computers, and laptops. I doubt they will release GDDR5 modules with DDR4 being close to release and being such a niche market.
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