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Hello, I am completely new to building computers and picking out parts, Iv'e been a console gamer for many years and im finally making the switch to PC. Now after months and months of research and video watching I have came up with a potential build. If you notice any flaws in my system or compatibility issues in the system please comment below so I can make a change to it before I decide to finalize my purchase.

Potential Build
MOBO: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K
GPU: GTX 670 FTW
PSU: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series 1000W
CPU COOLING: Corsair H100i
Memory: G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB)
CDROM: ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM
Hard drives: Have no idea. (Any suggestions)

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X

Operating system: Windows 8? I dont quite understand this, When I buy the parts for my computer does this come with it? Or is it a disk they send you? Also how do i know which one is not an upgrade and the actual OS.

Any suggestions are appreciated thanks.
- Jack
post #2 of 38
you dont need a 1000W powersupply. that is overkill even for upgrades at a later date
i would recommend a 600W - 750W powersupply which would give you room to upgrade if necassery. any corsair/seasonic will do

for HDD i would recommend a WD black 1TB or samsung F3 1TB . both 7200RPM so fast drives and reliable
i would suggest an SSD for increased performance to. it will increase boot / program times ETC when O/S / programs are installed onto it
as for O/S you can buy it and download it from microsoft or other methods tongue.gif . your PC / components will not come with an O/S . you must buy it seperatly. windows 7/8 home premium / proffesional should do nicely

if theres anymore questions let me know smile.gif

EDIT: if you want to save money 16GB of RAM is not necassery. 8GB will be fine. also a 3770K will be poor value if you are just gaming. i would recommend an i5 3570K - it is much cheaper and you will drop very little frames. droping to an i5 and replacing the money with an SSD will se much greater performance. this is all only to save money though
Edited by milanalden - 3/31/13 at 3:15pm
post #3 of 38
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post #4 of 38
I agree the 1000W is indeed overkill, unless youre planning on a tri-quad build.... 600W will do you good, 750w will do you great, 850w will be good for future proofing, but hey... let me ask you... why did you choose the 1000W ? did you want to go quad or something at some point?

The 3770k will perform just about the same than the 3570k in games, most games dont even use hyperthreading, but UNLESS you are planning on doing other things that involve hyperthreading, then go for it!

For the price of a H100i, could you save up a little more and possible go with a H220? Or maybe... save up a bit more for the X60 kraken? My friend has a kraken and the pump seems a little quieter than the H100i... my fans are even quieter than the pump at its lowest voltage...
post #5 of 38
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Originally Posted by milanalden View Post

you dont need a 1000W powersupply. that is overkill even for upgrades at a later date
i would recommend a 600W - 750W powersupply which would give you room to upgrade if necassery. any corsair/seasonic will do

for HDD i would recommend a WD black 1TB or samsung F3 1TB . both 7200RPM so fast drives and reliable
i would suggest an SSD for increased performance to. it will increase boot / program times ETC when O/S / programs are installed onto it
as for O/S you can buy it and download it from microsoft or other methods tongue.gif . your PC / components will not come with an O/S . you must buy it seperatly. windows 7/8 home premium / proffesional should do nicely

if theres anymore questions let me know smile.gif

EDIT: if you want to save money 16GB of RAM is not necassery. 8GB will be fine. also a 3770K will be poor value if you are just gaming. i would recommend an i5 3570K - it is much cheaper and you will drop very little frames. droping to an i5 and replacing the money with an SSD will se much greater performance. this is all only to save money though

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Originally Posted by Aesthethc View Post

I agree the 1000W is indeed overkill, unless youre planning on a tri-quad build.... 600W will do you good, 750w will do you great, 850w will be good for future proofing, but hey... let me ask you... why did you choose the 1000W ? did you want to go quad or something at some point?

The 3770k will perform just about the same than the 3570k in games, most games dont even use hyperthreading, but UNLESS you are planning on doing other things that involve hyperthreading, then go for it!

For the price of a H100i, could you save up a little more and possible go with a H220? Or maybe... save up a bit more for the X60 kraken? My friend has a kraken and the pump seems a little quieter than the H100i... my fans are even quieter than the pump at its lowest voltage...
The reason I thought 1000W would be good was because I was attempting to buy something that would last even after an upgrade, I later plan to run 2 gtx670 FTW In SLI over clicked and wasn't sure how the PSU would hold up in those circumstances. What would you suggest would hold up with these plans 850? Also I plan on getting a 3D monitor and being able to have the 3D experience. Going back to the CPU the reason I was going with the 3770K was because it was recommended to me by a friend and I didn't do much supporting research on it as I find the topic quite confusing. What I plan on using the computer for primarily is gaming and streaming, BF3 to be more specific. So if you would still recommend another CPU I'll be sure to look into it. Also regarding the the H100i, I chose that because I heard it was a great and it was compatible with the case I was going for. I am on a tight budget so these suggestions will really help me out and take all of them into consideration.
Edited by Jack0928 - 3/31/13 at 5:43pm
post #6 of 38
Hai, I've just build a similar build to friend

Since you are have been a dedicated console user, i surspect you're making a gaming rig? If so i got a a tip.

Very expensive gear you want, however you gain next to nothing compared to a i5-3470. The CPU and cooling you want are very well suited together, since you want a huge amond of cooling els the CPU is simply not worth it. With that said i still believe it's mush more suited for heavy programming rather then gaming. The mobo you've chosen are again top notch, but extremely expensive compared to gain vs. cheaper mobo's.

My suggestion: You save around 50%, have lower power usage. This CPU will run 500-800 MHz slower and have 2MB less L3 catch, this will mean a decrements of gaming power

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470
CPU COOLING: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (Stock is fine and silent, even with max turbo 4 GHz OC)
MOBO: ASUS P8Z77-V LX2 (Just as good as Sabertooth! This mobo's predecessor has been highly rated by tomhardware)

You save around 50%, have lower power usage. This CPU will run 500-800 MHz slower and have 2MB less L3 catch, this will result in a 3-4% decrement of gaming performance. So the changes will are so small you'll not even feel it (60 fps - 4% = 57,6 fps)

DDR3; In the build i just made we used Crucial Ballistix Tactical 2 x 8 GB 1600 MHz CL8. They've turned out to be MUSH faster then my own HyperX Beast 2400HMz CL11. If you want em even faster i'll point at G.Skill Ripjaws-X 2 x 4 GB 1866 MHz CL8 as they proberly are among the top 5 fastest ATM.

I agree with the other two about the 1000W PSU, it's overkill. Just remember to check for 80 PLUS certificate.

I found you've forgoten one item, an 120mm fan for rear exhaust tongue.gif

Hard drives: SDD forget it. Unless you wanna spend over 500 bucks then forget it, since you'll then only be buying a disk for windows = faster start up and MINOR enhanced windows experience. I will suggest a Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2 TB, it's fast, have large storage and are cheap. Buy two if you want Raid setup for double speed biggrin.gif

All in one:

MOBO: ASUS P8Z77-V LX2
CPU: Intel Core i5-3470
GPU: GTX 670 FTW
PSU: Cooler Master GX RS-750-ACAA-E3 (80 PLUS Bronze)
CPU COOLING: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 2 x 8 GB 1600 MHz CL8
CDROM: ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM
Hard drives: Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2 TB (Maybe spend extra cash here and buy 2x)
Rear Fan: Arctic Cooling ARCTIC F12 Pro PWM (Very silent and have good air flow)
post #7 of 38
#5

About the SLI. I don't think runing SLI is worth anything at all. It's noisy, get warm and has HUGE power consumption.

For a "good" SLI/Crossfire build you need something to use it for, like if you're gaming on a projector 2560x2560 screen and want very game on ultra settings.

As for an upgrade option it'll be better to aim for a new GPU every 2 year.

My own screen is my regular HD (1920x1080), my card is almost 2½ year old now, a 6870 and i'm thinking about changing it, since i've found a couple of late 2012 games i can't run on ultra settings biggrin.gif
post #8 of 38
it never hurts to have more power supply then you need, and if it makes you comfortable with your build then do it.
also I have run sli for years and it works great for me and I never had a problem with performance or heat or power.
I do agree on a i5 if it's mostly gaming, I run a 6 core i7 but I run programs that use it.
I also agree on air coolong for your cpu, the cooler master 212 is very good and so is the Xigmatek Dark Knight which is what I use.
look at Corsair forums under cooling and see the thousands of problems with all their liquid coolers.
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Windows 7 Pro 64bit LG 29inch widescreen DP LG 29inch widescreen DP Corsair K65 
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post #9 of 38
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Originally Posted by Waszipa View Post

#5

About the SLI. I don't think runing SLI is worth anything at all. It's noisy, get warm and has HUGE power consumption.

For a "good" SLI/Crossfire build you need something to use it for, like if you're gaming on a projector 2560x2560 screen and want very game on ultra settings.

As for an upgrade option it'll be better to aim for a new GPU every 2 year.

My own screen is my regular HD (1920x1080), my card is almost 2½ year old now, a 6870 and i'm thinking about changing it, since i've found a couple of late 2012 games i can't run on ultra settings biggrin.gif

Well I have a 144hz asus monitor and my goal is to be able to play BF3 and BF4 on ultra setting well maintaining above 120 fps, so I feel like SLI is the cheapest way if doing so.
post #10 of 38
#8 jihawn

Right SLI doesn't hurt performance, ofc smile.gif However it'll still be noisy. Then power thing will only show up on your electricity bill wink.gif

#9 Jack0982

Since he wanna run 3D 60 is recommended as peak minimum, so FPS 120 is well over 3D's need. So same thing as before, you gotta need it.

The human eye can only see around 25 FPS and 3D needs double since you're fouling the eyes, one eye at the time. That been said there are still a lot of scientists believing the human eye can see around 30 fps and up to 50 fps on adrenalin (That's also why time seems to slow down if you're in an accident)
Edited by Waszipa - 3/31/13 at 6:40pm
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