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Sabertooth boards are great, that's all I use as others gave me issues.
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post #22 of 38
You can download some tools to check what your minimum FPS's are on, since the normal counters in the games don't count in a way where they show the true minimum,

Test it, i believe you'll be surprised, i know i was first time i tested it, thinking my FPS was minimum 90 Hz. That's why i wrote a peak minimum ex. if the game shows you have 100 fps and starts to lack, you check and see it'l on 65-70 fps. That's because the game can lack in ex 0,05 sec where it only shows 20 fps, then the next 0,20s runing 100 fps again and so on

BTW: I've found memory timing to be the reason for must sudden lacks like that, even the original timings. Have also found a lightly unstable CPU that at original clock was to warm with stock cooler, to be the reason before (It was RMA'ed). It's not all in the GPU wink.gif
Edited by Waszipa - 3/31/13 at 7:52pm
post #23 of 38
About what hardrive will last longest. No brand is mush better then the other.

1 Golden rule: Always keep em cool (Place them behind the front intake fan). That's what i do and always have and i've NEVER had a harddrive breakdown. My oldest two are 10½ year old 300GB's Maxtor 6V300F0 biggrin.gif
post #24 of 38
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Oh yeah, forgot.
I wrote a new GPU every 2 year because, every 2. year my options are always the same and this has happened over the last 6 year.

I always buy a GPU for around 300-400$. Every 2. year there is a new card capable of double the performance for 300-400$. In the mean time my old card has dropped to 150-200$ so SLI/crossfire is an option, but then i rethink and say to my self;
Okey SLI will need more power.. So 3 hours of gaming a day x 250W x 365 days x 2 years = 547,5 KWh
547,5 x 0,39$ = 213,5$

Noisy SLI upgrade:
175$ GPU
213,5$ Higher power bill over 2 years
388,5$ total

Regular upgrade:
350$ GPU

So the way i see it using SLI as an upgrade option is that same as taking a low cost loan, with the benefit of a noisy computer wink.gif
Power is 39 cents per KWH where you live? It's 4-8 cents per KWH where I live.

power costs $45 per year for my entire rig if I game an average of 3 hours per day and have a fairly high estimate for power consumption.

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Sabertooth boards are great, that's all I use as others gave me issues.
Other boards may have given you issues, but there's nothing wrong with many other boards that aren't as overpriced.
Edited by Art Vanelay - 3/31/13 at 8:13pm
post #25 of 38
#24 Art Vanely

Yeah... forgot to write that electricity costs very mush over here in Denmark + I live in a community that are 0,05 more expensive then most of Denmark frown.gif

Yeah it's 05:18 AM over here biggrin.gif

Actually everything over here are totaly overpriced!! Electricity, gas, car have a 180% tax on them (not kidding), McD is 30-40% more expensive...... BUT we got clean water biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

Just found my year bill, 1962$. I mean i got a house so that's like ½ of it, rest is computer, tv, big speakers and light rolleyes.gif
Edited by Waszipa - 3/31/13 at 8:40pm
post #26 of 38
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Im still very confused with the HDD and how they effect the computer. What i do know about HDD is they need a high RPM. Now how do they effect the speed of the computers and what should i look for in buying one. Now i am on a budget and cant afford a $180 HDD.

Also still not quite sure whats best for RAM memory. I originally wanted (2x8) GB of GSKILL Sniper memory. Now someone said (4x4) GB of RAM would be faster. Now remember this is for gaming and specifically for Shooters. Any suggestions would be great.
post #27 of 38
Drop the 1000W PSU and get a nice 700-750W. 16G of RAM won't benefit you in gaming but some swear by it and wont give it up, so thats your call if you want to save some $ there. I personally wouldn't recommend the H100, I think its hyped to much. I'd suggest looking into custom watercooling and building a loop for your cpu. Or go air cooling and get something equal in performance. For HD thats really your call, depending on how much storage you need.Speed wise though anything at or over 7200 rpm is fine. SSD is another possibility if you want to spend the extra $. Operating system is more of personal preference. I like Windows 7 over 8 but thats just me. Other than that your cpu,mobo,gpu,case all look good.biggrin.gif
post #28 of 38
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Im still very confused with the HDD and how they effect the computer. What i do know about HDD is they need a high RPM. Now how do they effect the speed of the computers and what should i look for in buying one. Now i am on a budget and cant afford a $180 HDD.

Also still not quite sure whats best for RAM memory. I originally wanted (2x8) GB of GSKILL Sniper memory. Now someone said (4x4) GB of RAM would be faster. Now remember this is for gaming and specifically for Shooters. Any suggestions would be great.
Just don't get a green/low power drive. Ideally, you would get an SSD, but realistically, a WD caviar black will make a fine boot drive, and a blue one will work as well. The speed of the boot drive is very important; if you run an old hard drive as the boot drive, it will be painful. I don't really notice all that much of a difference between an SSD and a relatively new caviar black drive, though.

WD caviar reds are for RAID and greens are for storage.

You really only need 8GB of memory for gaming. Go for 2133MHz or 2400MHz RAM; it's not incredibly expensive anymore.
post #29 of 38
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Im still very confused with the HDD and how they effect the computer. What i do know about HDD is they need a high RPM. Now how do they effect the speed of the computers and what should i look for in buying one. Now i am on a budget and cant afford a $180 HDD.

Also still not quite sure whats best for RAM memory. I originally wanted (2x8) GB of GSKILL Sniper memory. Now someone said (4x4) GB of RAM would be faster. Now remember this is for gaming and specifically for Shooters. Any suggestions would be great.

For gaming 2 4GB stick would be great, I did say smaller sticks are generally faster, this makes a difference when benching but in gaming it's really negligible so you can basically go with what you like, there will be a difference but it will be like 2fps anyway, don't fret, what you have would be great. It helps to check that they are compatible with the motherboard in the qualified vendor list but I have used ram many times that isn't and works fine.

I'm probably starting to confuse you now haha so the bottom line is there are marginally better ram configurations but what you have is great.

for your HDD 90% of them are 7200RPM which is what you want you can get 2TB for $100 these days. they basically affect the speed of the computer with how fast the data can be written or read from the drive, I find the difference minimal unless I'm moving large (2GB+) files around. Faster HDD's would be WD's caviar black series or the Samsung F3 series

An SSD is much faster but they are about $1 per gigabyte so maybe leave that for a future upgrade

EDIT: you posted as I was writing mine Art Vanelay so I didn't see it until after but basically I agree about the HDD's but there is not much improvement in overall performance from RAM that is much faster than 1600MHz
Edited by Stickeelion - 3/31/13 at 11:13pm
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post #30 of 38
DDR3: As low timing as possible at as high MHz as posible. I'll try writing what is common in a list. Fast memory does effect gaming performance, going from 1600 MHz CL9 to 1866 MHz CL9 will grant you 7-10% higher fps.

Fastest
1600 MHz - CL7 \
1866 MHz - CL8. }> These two have even performance

1600 MHz - CL8

1866 MHz - CL9.. \
2400 MHz - CL11. }> All even performance
2133 MHz - CL10 /

1600 MHz - CL9
1600 MHz - CL10
1333 MHz - CL9
1333 MHz - CL10
Slowest

The middle ones are about same performance, both in games and in benchmark, same goes for the top 2. The 2133 + 2400 MHz only comes with slow timings and almost all the 1600 MHz CL9 memory i've tested can run well over 2000 MHz at CL11, but it did almost always only create heat not performance.

My suggestion remains Crucial Ballistix Tactical 2 x 8 GB 1600 MHz CL8

8 vs 16 GB Memory = All tests show no difference in gamin performance, only Metro can make use of more memory. In other words, it's completely up to the "game engineers", when the games will gain performance from more then 8GB.

4 vs 2 block of memory = 2x8GB will increase stability and overclocking potential compaired to 4x4GB

HDD: It "only" effects loading times, since when you have a lot of memory, win7 will load all it can from the game, into your memory and after that the HDD is silent. While gaming I've several times experienced so little HDD activity that my PC shuts em all down, to save power and the games never seems to care biggrin.gif
A 7200 RPM's hdd and then you're good.
Again i suggest the same Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2 TB biggrin.gif
Edited by Waszipa - 4/1/13 at 3:47am
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