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post #31 of 38
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Now i am on a budget and cant afford a $180 HDD.

The list i made i my first post is a "budget" intel system, without compromising any gaming performance smile.gif

If you want you can write what your budget is or PM me about it. I'll be happy to whip up a shopping list from newegg that fits your budget. But i need to know your needs like do you need a screen, keyboard, mouse, does it need to look stylish or will regular black do?
post #32 of 38
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Originally Posted by Stickeelion View Post

For gaming 2 4GB stick would be great, I did say smaller sticks are generally faster, this makes a difference when benching but in gaming it's really negligible so you can basically go with what you like, there will be a difference but it will be like 2fps anyway, don't fret, what you have would be great. It helps to check that they are compatible with the motherboard in the qualified vendor list but I have used ram many times that isn't and works fine.

I'm probably starting to confuse you now haha so the bottom line is there are marginally better ram configurations but what you have is great.

EDIT: you posted as I was writing mine Art Vanelay so I didn't see it until after but basically I agree about the HDD's but there is not much improvement in overall performance from RAM that is much faster than 1600MHz

Yeah that was the deal 6 years ago. However over the last 5-6 years development has made the "all ram are pretty mush gonna perform even" statment untrue.

Actually if you check up on it, you'll find AMD's and Intel's CPU performance very even in games (benchmarks calculation per sec), with the only big difference being Intel 50-60% faster memory communication. This does effect the gaming performance so mush that a i5-3470 will yield 30% higher fps then AMD's FX-4170.

And before you all go crazy at me. I know Intel's architecture is MUSH better then AMD at regular windows operations like compressing, uncompressing and so on, at the same base MHz, but talking only gaming here.
post #33 of 38
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Yeah that was the deal 6 years ago. However over the last 5-6 years development has made the "all ram are pretty mush gonna perform even" statment untrue.

Actually if you check up on it, you'll find AMD's and Intel's CPU performance very even in games (benchmarks calculation per sec), with the only big difference being Intel 50-60% faster memory communication. This does effect the gaming performance so mush that a i5-3470 will yield 30% higher fps then AMD's FX-4170.

And before you all go crazy at me. I know Intel's architecture is MUSH better then AMD at regular windows operations like compressing, uncompressing and so on, at the same base MHz, but talking only gaming here.

fair enough you seem to really know your stuff but AMD's really are much cheaper than intel for the same power, and I would still reccomend WD over seagate they seem to have better reliability
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post #34 of 38
#33 I'm a AMD fan myself!!

But when building a complete new system Intel are the smart buy. Yeap that's right the 115$ more expensive system are the smart buy (most bang for the buck).

I'll explain
AMD FX-4170
Gaming performance: 60 fps
Power consumption: 260w
Total rig price: 850$
$ per fps: 14,16$

Intel i5-3470
Gaming performance: 78 fps = 130% biggrin.gif
Power consumption: 200w = 60w lower power consumption smile.gif
Total rig price: 965$ = 113,5% mad.gif
$ per fps: 12,37 $ = 87,3% = Intel is over 12,5% cheaper wink.gif

When the first Core 2 Duo came out, AMD's "smart buy throne" had been compromised and now it seems AMD is falling further behind frown.gif
This has been proved by tomshardware in an CPU article posted 11/02-2013, so not pulling your leg, wish i was!

This has been hard to admit but:
Dear AMD, we had a good run, you've always been my nr1!
But now our ways split, you're going down the workstation road
i'll stay on the gaming road with my new friend Intel tongue.gif
Edited by Waszipa - 4/1/13 at 12:19pm
post #35 of 38
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Originally Posted by Waszipa View Post

The list i made i my first post is a "budget" intel system, without compromising any gaming performance smile.gif

If you want you can write what your budget is or PM me about it. I'll be happy to whip up a shopping list from newegg that fits your budget. But i need to know your needs like do you need a screen, keyboard, mouse, does it need to look stylish or will regular black do?

I took you up on your offer, Sent a PM.
post #36 of 38
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Originally Posted by Waszipa View Post

#33 I'm a AMD fan myself!!

But when building a complete new system Intel are the smart buy. Yeap that's right the 115$ more expensive system are the smart buy (most bang for the buck).

I'll explain
AMD FX-4170
Gaming performance: 60 fps
Power consumption: 260w
Total rig price: 850$
$ per fps: 14,16$

Intel i5-3470
Gaming performance: 78 fps = 130% biggrin.gif
Power consumption: 200w = 60w lower power consumption smile.gif
Total rig price: 965$ = 113,5% mad.gif
$ per fps: 12,37 $ = 87,3% = Intel is over 12,5% cheaper wink.gif

When the first Core 2 Duo came out, AMD's "smart buy throne" had been compromised and now it seems AMD is falling further behind frown.gif
This has been proved by tomshardware in an CPU article posted 11/02-2013, so not pulling your leg, wish i was!

This has been hard to admit but:
Dear AMD, we had a good run, you've always been my nr1!
But now our ways split, you're going down the workstation road
i'll stay on the gaming road with my new friend Intel tongue.gif
Personally, I'd say that the FX-6300 should be the go-to chip for budget systems, and the 3570k/2500k should be the go-to chips for high end systems. At this point, they seem like the best value.

Power consumption is a nonissue where I live, though.
post #37 of 38
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Originally Posted by Waszipa View Post

#33 I'm a AMD fan myself!!

But when building a complete new system Intel are the smart buy. Yeap that's right the 115$ more expensive system are the smart buy (most bang for the buck).

I'll explain
AMD FX-4170
Gaming performance: 60 fps
Power consumption: 260w
Total rig price: 850$
$ per fps: 14,16$

Intel i5-3470
Gaming performance: 78 fps = 130% biggrin.gif
Power consumption: 200w = 60w lower power consumption smile.gif
Total rig price: 965$ = 113,5% mad.gif
$ per fps: 12,37 $ = 87,3% = Intel is over 12,5% cheaper wink.gif

When the first Core 2 Duo came out, AMD's "smart buy throne" had been compromised and now it seems AMD is falling further behind frown.gif
This has been proved by tomshardware in an CPU article posted 11/02-2013, so not pulling your leg, wish i was!

This has been hard to admit but:
Dear AMD, we had a good run, you've always been my nr1!
But now our ways split, you're going down the workstation road
i'll stay on the gaming road with my new friend Intel tongue.gif

.......but if you go AMD you can tell people you have 8-cores which I know there is almost no improvement over intel's 4-cores but it is good for bragging rights amongst those who are not extremely well read in computers biggrin.gif
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post #38 of 38
Hai again

I was reading an article on Tomshardware.com and found the tests you where looking for.

On this pages they test BF3 and Elder scrolls fps in a system very similar to what we've been talking about
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overclocking-gaming,3440-12.html
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