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Hello again, This is about my 8th thread posting about what GPU i want to buy. I m trying to REALLY narrow down my GPU to 'THE ONE.' It will be the first 300+ dollar purchase for me, so this decision is important. Sapphire? MSI? ASUS?

What cools better?

The Asus cooler? 20 percent better cooling? With Digital VRM. Sounds enticing, and that made me think twice about the performance of the Twin frozer.
I enjoy the slick design of the sapphire 92mm fans. I want that eye candy. But, what would you say, OCN.

My Budget is 320 dollars, minus Tax. I'll be using St.Louis Park's Microcenter.

11 days untill payday again. Help. redface.gif
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I 'd say Asus (V2). It looks better too and it has black pcb. But Vapor X is good too.
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Hello again, This is about my 8th thread posting about what GPU i want to buy. I m trying to REALLY narrow down my GPU to 'THE ONE.' It will be the first 300+ dollar purchase for me, so this decision is important. Sapphire? MSI? ASUS?

What cools better?

The Asus cooler? 20 percent better cooling? With Digital VRM. Sounds enticing, and that made me think twice about the performance of the Twin frozer.
I enjoy the slick design of the sapphire 92mm fans. I want that eye candy. But, what would you say, OCN.

My Budget is 320 dollars, minus Tax. I'll be using St.Louis Park's Microcenter.

11 days untill payday again. Help. redface.gif

I've seen very few people ever have problems with a Sapphire 7950, but there's actually a thread I found where some guy had like a dead port (I think).. From personal experience, I'd say Sapphire, but they are both good cards. Once again just make sure you get the V2 Asus card smile.gif

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Go with the Sapphire, Asus 7000 series cards are riddled with problems. Whether they have fixed them yet or not, I'm not sure but I wouldn't risk it.
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post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by John9000 View Post

I 'd say Asus (V2). It looks better too and it has black pcb. But Vapor X is good too.
Can i get more information about the vaporX?

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Originally Posted by ledzepp3 View Post

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I've seen very few people ever have problems with a Sapphire 7950, but there's actually a thread I found where some guy had like a dead port (I think).. From personal experience, I'd say Sapphire, but they are both good cards. Once again just make sure you get the V2 Asus card smile.gif

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Dead port? well, at least everyone isn't screaming about that. and thank you, Seth Rogan is hilarious.

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Originally Posted by AndyM95 View Post

Go with the Sapphire, Asus 7000 series cards are riddled with problems. Whether they have fixed them yet or not, I'm not sure but I wouldn't risk it.

Another point for sapphire! Thanks!
post #6 of 14
They fixed them with the 2nd Version. (V2)
Asus's 78xx cooling system isn't the best i would say,but for the 7950 and 7970 cards,the V2 is probably better than msi,gigabyte,sapphire,xfx
post #7 of 14
I'd get one with unlocked voltage. I've heard a lot of good things about the MSI 7950 TFIII.

The Vapor-X cooler is quite loud compared to the DCII/TFIII cooler.
post #8 of 14
Asus's HD 7000 series is just GTX 600 series coolers retrofitted onto the Radeons. You can see the problem on HD7870 especially: the heatpipe contact is utter crap.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1305-page2.html
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The stark contrast between our results for the GTX 670 and HD 7870 DirectCU II is particularly noteworthy considering the similarity of the two heatsinks — they are virtually indistinguishable from one another. One wouldn't expect that a 27W reduction in power draw could end up making such a dramatic difference. After examining the two coolers closely we realized there was another possible explanation — the proportion of the GPU core making contact with the direct-touch heatpipes. The Radeon core has a smaller die than the GTX 670 (212 vs. 294 square millimeters) and it is positioned diagonally so only small portions of it are touched by the outer heatpipes, making the center heatpipe responsible for transferring most of the heat produced. The GeForce die's larger footprint and "straight" orientation seems to take greater advantage of this heatpipe layout.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1325-page4.html

edit: also http://www.behardware.com/news/12153/asus-hd-7950-directcu-ii-fault-report.html

http://ht4u.net/reviews/2012/gigabyte_radeon_hd_7950_oc_windforce_3_im_test/index10.php
Edited by AlphaC - 3/31/13 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

Asus's HD 7000 series is just GTX 600 series coolers retrofitted onto the Radeons. You can see the problem on HD7870 especially: the heatpipe contact is utter crap.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1305-page2.html
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1325-page4.html

edit: also http://www.behardware.com/news/12153/asus-hd-7950-directcu-ii-fault-report.html

http://ht4u.net/reviews/2012/gigabyte_radeon_hd_7950_oc_windforce_3_im_test/index10.php

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Its the Version 1!
1 year ago tongue.gif
HD7870-DC2-2GD5-V2
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To befuddle consumers, ASUS is currently offering four separate versions of the HD 7870 with minor variations in the model number to differentiate them. The D2T's are clocked higher than the DC2's, at 1100/1250 MHz, while the V2 editions have more advanced voltage regulation circuitry (DIGI+VRM) and trade two mini-DisplayPorts for one regular DisplayPort and an additional DVI connection. Our sample is the HD7870-DC2-2GD5-V2 (in bold in the table above).

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1305-page1.html
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