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post #251 of 542
would you expect anything less.... it's it a dog eat dog world out there.?
and I bet nVidia has been planning this for some time, marketing and quality control in cahoots with each other..

but it's not like AMD and Radeon hasn't tried something in the past either...
hell I think it's hilarious...

shots fired, man down...... !

now it's Radeon time to respond in the upcoming months.
and didn't Radeon just hire a couple of guys away from nVidia a few months ago.?

we the consumers are just pawns in this game amigos...
post #252 of 542
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I wouldn't read into that too much, seeing as they're open sourcing it and foul play suspicions will be put to bed quite quickly.

It's only natural that a company plays to their strengths too. Nvidia developed a tool to show their hardware metering, AMD play the same game, for example: Tomb Raider TressFX 'using the power of GCNs compute' knowing the 6xx is hobbled there smile.gif

Yes wink.gif

But some people accused me of making false claim about this. I never said it was a bad thing. Reviewers need money .


It's a good review IMO, not the most revelant but it's still good. Now lets wait for next generations of cards and let me buy 4 of them biggrin.gif


Edited by KaRLiToS - 4/3/13 at 9:43am
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I wouldn't read into that too much, seeing as they're open sourcing it and foul play suspicions will be put to bed quite quickly.

It's only natural that a company plays to their strengths too. Nvidia developed a tool to show their hardware metering, AMD play the same game, for example: Tomb Raider TressFX 'using the power of GCNs compute' knowing the 6xx is hobbled there smile.gif


At least amd is not trying to cripple nvidia performance tressfx is just a feature nvidia is bad at it..
We can talk about physx tho XD
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I wouldn't read into that too much, seeing as they're open sourcing it and foul play suspicions will be put to bed quite quickly.

It's only natural that a company plays to their strengths too. Nvidia developed a tool to show their hardware metering, AMD play the same game, for example: Tomb Raider TressFX 'using the power of GCNs compute' knowing the 6xx is hobbled there smile.gif

Too bad it didn't work out as planned. After NVIDIA got the final code, put out proper drivers for it, and the game was properly patched, NVIDIA cards regained the lead, LOL.







This is what AMD would have you believe. rolleyes.gif

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Food for thought

Frame Rating Dissected: Full Details on Capture-based Graphics Performance Testing'.
From the article (in part):
Where does the word runt come from?
In the same link above also explains what FCAT is:
Interesting comments from H
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It's only natural that a company plays to their strengths too...
Everyone is responsible in deciding the validity of one competitor's testbed software being valid for another competitor's results.

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Great post EastCoast +rep thumb.gif
Thanks
Edited by EastCoast - 4/3/13 at 10:01am
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I like how they skipped GTX 670...which is probably more popular than the 660Ti
     
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So if this is all a NVIDIA conspiracy of some sort (please...), then why does AMD acknowledge it? Is the information they post bogus? They're capturing the raw video output, so whether you want to call those "runt" frames or not, doesn't change the fact that it's not an actual frame. If "runt" frames float your boat, then go ahead and enjoy it thumb.gif
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I wouldn't read into that too much, seeing as they're open sourcing it and foul play suspicions will be put to bed quite quickly.

It's only natural that a company plays to their strengths too. Nvidia developed a tool to show their hardware metering, AMD play the same game, for example: Tomb Raider TressFX 'using the power of GCNs compute' knowing the 6xx is hobbled there smile.gif

Too bad it didn't work out as planned. After NVIDIA got the final code, put out proper drivers for it, and the game was properly patched, NVIDIA cards regained the lead, LOL. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)






This is what AMD would have you believe. rolleyes.gif

I like the way you think.... thumb.gif
post #259 of 542
@2010 rig

Isnt better that amd didint cripple the performance of nvidia?I am quite happy that finally nowdays we have both benefits from this competition. A healthy competition is a good thing thumb.gif

I believe that the benchmark is before the nvidia tomb raider drivers so probably is correct. EIther way the performance change with each driver. We dont have a single review after the new patch. I get like 10-15% more fps.

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So if this is all a NVIDIA conspiracy of some sort (please...), then why does AMD acknowledge it? Is the information they post bogus? They're capturing the raw video output, so whether you want to call those "runt" frames or not, doesn't change the fact that it's not an actual frame. If "runt" frames float your boat, then go ahead and enjoy it thumb.gif

Why you keep saying the same things over and over again? AMD never acknoledge anything about 'runt' frames neither about that a second card dont increase the performance. Please we are a mature community misinformations isnt a part of this forum.
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I thought every thread with AMD mentioned was an AMD bash thread. rolleyes.gif

I am really interested to see what AMDs solution to this will be. How effective the expected drivers will be, and if the frame metering or whatever they implement will introduce a ton of input lag or what. Should be interesante
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@2010 rig

Isnt better that amd didint cripple the performance of nvidia?I am quite happy that finally nowdays we have both benefits from this competition. A healthy competition is a good thing
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Originally Posted by lacrossewacker View Post

So if this is all a NVIDIA conspiracy of some sort (please...), then why does AMD acknowledge it? Is the information they post bogus? They're capturing the raw video output, so whether you want to call those "runt" frames or not, doesn't change the fact that it's not an actual frame. If "runt" frames float your boat, then go ahead and enjoy it thumb.gif

Why you keep saying the same things over and over again? AMD never acknoledge anything about 'runt' frames neither about that a second card dont increase the performance. Please we are a mature community misinformation isnt a part of this forum.

Wouldn't it be nice if Nvidia would just open up PhysX to all of us... Never gonna Happen.

I think LacrosseWacker is just saying that, this is not all made up by Nvidia and PCPer, as AMD has acknowledged a problem and is working on a solution. Whether or not AMD address runt frames or artificial FPS increases based on said frames, I dunno.
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