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umm no

the moment the so called "non conductive fluid" hits dust in your system your system would be done. if you are using it to leak test and you have a leak.your system would still be done.

end of story.

did you read the link on martins liquid lab ?

so unless you have the worlds cleanest system and a "clean environment" there is a reason most water cooling people reccomend having a second psu to test for leaks and running a leak test out side of your case and also once installed. and they also ( again i said most ) recommend just using basic store brand distilled water. if you want to buy in to non conductive feel free. but when i was doing my research. i found plenty of people who still killed their system from using non conductive coolant while filling it for the first time it is just more hype to get you to spend more monies on some basic tap water.

as for the bold part. everyone makes mistakes. and have you not read up on how many issues people have had AFTER it was installed. stuff happens. i would rather not take a chance on my pc that i have spent alot of time and money on
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Dust + Non-Conductive = Conductive ?
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long story short yes

it depends on what is in the dust but pure water is a VERY POOR conductor.

it is the minerals in water that make it conductive, alot of which are found in common dust

it is the same thing as wood, wood is a very poor conductor. it is other things that are present in wood that makes it conductive

in both cases salt makes a big difference

http://www.smart-fertilizer.com/articles/electrical-conductivity
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Distilled water does not contain dissolved salts and, as a result, it does not conduct electricity and has an electrical conductivity of zero.

http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/electrical-conductivity.html
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But what I learned from researching this topic was that pure water is actually an excellent insulator and does not conduct electricity. Water that would be considered "pure" would be distilled water (water condensed from steam) and deionized water (used in laboratories), although even water of this purity can contain ions

Edited by Mega Man - 4/3/13 at 5:54pm
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post #33 of 46
If we're going to be hijacking this thread (see: 'Stuck to my chair" rant) I will voice my opinions.

You really shouldn't be watercooling if you're not willing to accept the risks of leaks. A lot of people will go high-end air solely because of this. Even after an out-of-chassis leak test **** happens. As for coolant vs distilled water, I would go with water if I wasn't concerned about looks or having anything a specific color. Just add a killcoil and you have a loop running with nice non-conductive fluid. Impurities getting into either non-conductive fluid OR water will run you the risk of a nasty zap, and that's why it's important to take all the necessary precautions, as Mega Man said.
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not sure what the charts mean but yeah generally speaking better bin chips are turned into faster chips.

look at the 3570k vs 3770k and the first gen i7s
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not sure what the charts mean but yeah generally speaking better bin chips are turned into faster chips.

look at the 3570k vs 3770k and the first gen i7s

3960x @ 4.9Ghz temps 39(Idle) to 86(Load)
3970x @ 4.9Ghz temps 49(Idle) to 89(Load)

Initial possible conclusion , they both are almost the same.
Any way enough with this cause i was not able to find any other 3960x vs 3970x running at the same clocks comparison.
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3960x @ 4.9Ghz temps 39(Idle) to 86(Load)
3970x @ 4.9Ghz temps 49(Idle) to 89(Load)

Initial possible conclusion , they both are almost the same.
Any way enough with this cause i was not able to find any other 3960x vs 3970x running at the same clocks comparison.

intel doesnt bin chips by temperature.
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you forgot evaporative cooling, same price as water cooling, better temps. need a litre of any water per day (can be normal tap water)
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ZOMG liquid helium yo
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you forgot evaporative cooling, same price as water cooling, better temps. need a litre of any water per day (can be normal tap water)
and then clean your blocks often
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and then clean your blocks often
no, run dual loops
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