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my question is if UPS is the one that keeps voltage at the same measure or is it a regulator¿¿?? but UPS server as a stabilizer of voltage with PSU or regulator does it and up doesnt?


bcuz here current in the house comes down and up(fluctuations) bcuz it is old and many people near to me uses machinery in a construction which make worse this tongue.gif

I have another question to increase clarity here: are you saying that these fluctuations are complete outages where you have absolutely no electricity? Or are you just seeing the lights dim occasionally?

I mean, if you're just seeing the lights dim occasionally, then there's no need to buy a UPS or anything like that because your PSU is more than well-equipped to handle the fluctuating input voltage.

It can handle it, but i would assume it's not good on it right? So a UPS wouldn't hurt.
 
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It can handle it, but i would assume it's not good on it right? So a UPS wouldn't hurt.

 

So, would a UPS would keep the input voltage consistent instead of drooping down when the construction site near him (apparently) is using extra electricity?

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It can handle it, but i would assume it's not good on it right? So a UPS wouldn't hurt.

So, would a UPS would keep the input voltage consistent instead of drooping down when the construction site near him (apparently) is using extra electricity?

That's what the internal Bat is for i would assume, it balances out the spikes and lows with the Resistor banks for the highs and the bat for the lows. Makes sense to me smile.gif

Also, i would assume the PSU would have a heart attack if the incoming volts was to droop down to 90V~ and then spike up to 130V~ when they shut off the equipment. lol You thought Vdroop was bad thanks to Windows, what about Voltage drop all together? LOL biggrin.gif

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That's what the internal Bat is for i would assume, it balances out the spikes and lows with the Resistor banks for the highs and the bat for the lows. Makes sense to me smile.gif

Also, i would assume the PSU would have a heart attack if the incoming volts was to droop down to 90V~ and then spike up to 130V~ when they shut off the equipment. lol You thought Vdroop was bad thanks to Windows, what about Voltage drop all together? LOL biggrin.gif

1,800th POST WOOT! tongue.gif

After looking at the Wattbox WB-400-VCE-12 it is an impressive piece of hardware.. I would seriously consider getting one, if I could find the price? Also, if an unsafe level is detected, it shuts off all power... Which can be harsh on your computer (File corruption).. so you still may need a UPS on top of it.

Not all UPS have good filtering, they will use the battery if the voltage goes under X volts, and that threshold can sometimes be changed via UPS Data cable (if they supply one). Likewise, not all UPSs will handle non-surge higher voltages.

This APC UPS is decent, and comes with the data cable for monitoring... you can setup your computer to automatically turn off if < X minutes remain on battery. It has some power filtering, check reviews for more info.
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I have another question to increase clarity here: are you saying that these fluctuations are complete outages where you have absolutely no electricity? Or are you just seeing the lights dim occasionally?

I mean, if you're just seeing the lights dim occasionally, then there's no need to buy a UPS or anything like that because your PSU is more than well-equipped to handle the fluctuating input voltage.

Lights usually dim (which means over-usage) everytime people use things like welders or drills. I think that PSU isnt that prepared for keeping constantly the current at the same level, I am using it with a regulator biggrin.gif

next year I will see what I can from amazon, given that we only have 400 usd for electronic purchases mad.gif
Edited by PontiacGTX - 4/2/13 at 7:03am
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That's what the internal Bat is for i would assume, it balances out the spikes and lows with the Resistor banks for the highs and the bat for the lows. Makes sense to me smile.gif

Also, i would assume the PSU would have a heart attack if the incoming volts was to droop down to 90V~ and then spike up to 130V~ when they shut off the equipment. lol You thought Vdroop was bad thanks to Windows, what about Voltage drop all together? LOL biggrin.gif

1,800th POST WOOT! tongue.gif

 

Well, the input voltage the TX750 V2 is rated for ranges from 90 to 264V, so it should be fine down to 90V. I seriously doubt the construction site nearby is causing their voltage to droop that low. The neighborhood would be up in arms about it. It sounds to me like all he's seeing is a little bit of dimming of his lights and so it concerns him. I'd be concerned too because my system is kind of like my baby, y'know?

 

However, I learned last year that these PSUs are as tough as nails. We had a brownout which means the voltage dips WAY down but the power is not completely cut, yet my old Bronze-rated HX650 kept powering my system just fine. Even my monitor still looked normal. Still, I panicked and I shut my system down as quickly as possible and I was even able to use Shut Down from the Start Menu and it worked just fine. My system seemed to be completely unaffected by this. If my computer could talk, then it probably would have been like, "Why are you panicking? I don't feel any problem here. Come on! Let's play!" I would have been like, "Omg are you insane? We're having a brownout! This is scary! I can't relax until you're completely powered off and unplugged!"

 

The Bronze-rated HX650 has an input voltage of 90-264V just like the TX750 V2. They have an automatic switching circuitry.

 

I don't know how far down the voltage went during the brownout, but it must've still been plenty of voltage because my computer was completely unaffected. My monitor has an automatic switching circuitry of its own for 110V to 220V, yet it looked completely unaffected. It wasn't dimmed nor did it turn off. However, my 100W incandescent light looked something like a 25W bulb (which is why it's called a brownout). So I can only imagine how far that voltage dipped down...

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They usually dim (which means over-usage) everytime people use things like welders or drills. I think that PSU isnt that prepared for keeping constantly the current at the same level, I am using it with a regulator biggrin.gif

next year I will see what I can from amazon, given that we only have 400 usd for electronic purchases mad.gif

 

Do the lights dim much? Or only a little?

 

The power supply you have automatically adjusts to changes in the input voltage, and it's rated to handle input voltages between 90V and 264V. So, you shouldn't need any sort of external equipment unless the lights are dimming so much that it's difficult to see while they're dimmed.

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Do the lights dim much? Or only a little?

The power supply you have automatically adjusts to changes in the input voltage, and it's rated to handle input voltages between 90V and 264V. So, you shouldn't need any sort of external equipment unless the lights are dimming so much that it's difficult to see while they're dimmed.

Usually,when lights dim, regulator sounds 3 or 5 times , it feels the change of voltage/current
Edited by PontiacGTX - 4/2/13 at 7:07am
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Usually,when lights dim, regulator sounds 3 or 5 times when it feels the change of voltage/current

 

Are you able to see what the different voltages are during the changes? If so, then I have two questions: what is the normal voltage, and what's the lowest voltage you've seen?

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Are you able to see what the different voltages are during the changes? If so, then I have two questions: what is the normal voltage, and what's the lowest voltage you've seen?

I havent tested voltages on PSU or outlet biggrin.gif, I have no tool for that,maybe a monitoring program for psu but that isnt going to be accurate tongue.gif
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