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Hello, I'm planning to change my business's server, I have an IBM with AMD dual core processor, 2gb ram, windows server 2003 (old server).

Use of server:
- The main use is a software like stock management, each LAN computer stores data into the server.
- Share files from the server to LAN computers (about 200 gb).
- Share printers.

Notes:
- Number of computers working in the same time: 10-20.
- 7 of them have a printer conected by USB and needs to share it to the LAN

Today all computers join the domain of the server and it is too slow each time a computer log in, the use of the software, etc. , so I need to upgrade the server.
I've been reading about Virtualization, and I think is a good idea, but needs a expensive server, so I want to build my own server.

Server spec:
Intel core I7 3770 // 16gb DDR 1600Mhz RAM // Intel SSD 240gb // 1tb hard drive // windows server 2012 pirated or purchase?.

The Processor have Virtualization tecnology, 16 gb ram would be perfect? Store Data from the stock management software into the SSD is a good idea?

Thanks
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Originally Posted by goto3 View Post

Hello, I'm planning to change my business's server, I have an IBM with AMD dual core processor, 2gb ram, windows server 2003 (old server).

Use of server:
- The main use is a software like stock management, each LAN computer stores data into the server.
- Share files from the server to LAN computers (about 200 gb).
- Share printers.

Notes:
- Number of computers working in the same time: 10-20.
- 7 of them have a printer conected by USB and needs to share it to the LAN

Today all computers join the domain of the server and it is too slow each time a computer log in, the use of the software, etc. , so I need to upgrade the server.
I've been reading about Virtualization, and I think is a good idea, but needs a expensive server, so I want to build my own server.

Server spec:
Intel core I7 3770 // 16gb DDR 1600Mhz RAM // Intel SSD 240gb // 1tb hard drive // windows server 2012 pirated or purchase?.

The Processor have Virtualization tecnology, 16 gb ram would be perfect? Store Data from the stock management software into the SSD is a good idea?

Thanks

Server specs would be more than enough, and the SSD isn't really needed. I would recommend getting some kind of RAID in there, be it software or hardware based. I would look at a Xeon proc instead of an i7 though. Xeon 1230v2 would do you just fine (quad core with Hyper-Threading, and VT-d). Don't pirate software...talk like that isn't allowed on these forums.

What virtualization platform are you planning to use? I would assume Hyper-V since you are talking about Windows Server, but ESXi is another option. All depends on money.
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Originally Posted by tycoonbob View Post

Server specs would be more than enough, and the SSD isn't really needed. I would recommend getting some kind of RAID in there, be it software or hardware based. I would look at a Xeon proc instead of an i7 though. Xeon 1230v2 would do you just fine (quad core with Hyper-Threading, and VT-d). Don't pirate software...talk like that isn't allowed on these forums.

What virtualization platform are you planning to use? I would assume Hyper-V since you are talking about Windows Server, but ESXi is another option. All depends on money.

Thanks for the reply,
I'm new in this area, I thought Windows server had that software, so I have to buy Microsoft Server OS and Hyper-V platform?
Where can I find tutorials for what I need? Since the start
Again thanks smile.gif
post #4 of 8
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Thanks for the reply,
I'm new in this area, I thought Windows server had that software, so I have to buy Microsoft Server OS and Hyper-V platform?
Where can I find tutorials for what I need? Since the start
Again thanks smile.gif

If you are looking at Windows, go with Server 2008 R2 Enterprise, which will give you licenses to run up to 4 VMs under Hyper-V. Server 2008 Standard will give you licenses to run only 1 VM under Hyper-V. Server 2012 Standard gives you licenses for 2 VMs under Hyper-V, I think.

Or you could go with Windows Hyper-V Server 2012, which is free and gives you free VMs. You are responsible for the VM licenses though.
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Originally Posted by tycoonbob View Post

If you are looking at Windows, go with Server 2008 R2 Enterprise, which will give you licenses to run up to 4 VMs under Hyper-V. Server 2008 Standard will give you licenses to run only 1 VM under Hyper-V. Server 2012 Standard gives you licenses for 2 VMs under Hyper-V, I think.

Or you could go with Windows Hyper-V Server 2012, which is free and gives you free VMs. You are responsible for the VM licenses though.

So, I need Hyper-V Server 2012, but can I share files from my server to lan computers? share printers?
Thanks
post #6 of 8
Hyper-v server is just the hypervisor to host the vm's. It's free, but you will still need windows licenses for the vm's that you have running on it. What are the needs of the business, do they truly need a vm server, what would be running on it?
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I do not think you have reached the threshold where a server OS is required (you are under 10 users).If you happen to price out a Microsoft Server OS,priced for commercial use,be prepared for "sticker shock".How about going to a homegroup (esentialy a peer-to-peer network).You could probably get a hold of enough legit copies of Win 7 at a price that is less that a commercial Server 2003 license.
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I do not think you have reached the threshold where a server OS is required (you are under 10 users).If you happen to price out a Microsoft Server OS,priced for commercial use,be prepared for "sticker shock".How about going to a homegroup (esentialy a peer-to-peer network).You could probably get a hold of enough legit copies of Win 7 at a price that is less that a commercial Server 2003 license.

Another option, would be Small Business Server 2008.
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