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Since I own both the 690 and Titan, I would recommend a 690 for your res. That game play is smooth for both, and if there is any difference in smoothness, then at least I can't tell. However, the gpu horsepower of 690 really helps in games vs a single Titan.
I would only recommend a Titan over a 690, if you were getting two. May be this is what Nvidia hopes, as people will realize that they are not getting "enough" fps, and there would be an opportunity for an up sell. You will not run out of VRAM on your res, but you would definitely notice the fps loss over
a 690.
Two Titans may make sense for higher res. Although, I am still struggling to see what I gain by just having two Titans over a quad 690. As I have both quad setups. Beyond two Titans, the scaling is horrible in games. Perhaps this was not a worthwhile "upgrade" for me, from a performance gain perspective, even considering 6gb VRAM on 5760 x 1080 res. But, for other people upgrading from other cards, its is a good solution.

While I do agree with you, you also have to take in to mind that 4way SLI is not really supported by Nvidia. 3way is the way to go for several cards and working drivers (Although they have not fixed 3way for Titan yet, it will come later on). Sadly I don't think Nvidia will ever support 4way properly, as it is such a niche market.
I think I will go with 3 cards next gen, I miss having 3 cards! 4 cards I will not even dare to try because of the horrid driver support mad.gif
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At that resolution, a single 690 + a block will still be under the cost of a stock Titan. If you're looking to "future proof", Titan is the way to go thumb.gif.

I'm surprised no one suggested a couple of GTX 680 4GB. It will provide you the epeen of vram (because 2gb is still pretty solid in Surround imho, imagine 1440p!), and will outperform a single Titan. Keplers do pretty well in 2-way sli. Though, it might be a bit expensive since 4gb have a premium (look used!!!!).

edit: my two 690s w/ blocks were 3/4 the cost of two stock new titans. Game play is pretty great at 3600x1920 and it made a great upgrade from my old quad 580 3gbs biggrin.gif
Edited by wermad - 4/1/13 at 11:44pm
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TITAN smile.gif
post #14 of 30
If you aren't going for extreem hi-def (7680x1440) a single 690 will provide a better over all experiance.

Unless you are planning to add a second card down the line... the 690 gets my vote.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I don't anticipate adding a 2nd display for gaming purposes, and definitely not a 3rd 27" display, I have no room for all of that! I am looking at getting a Dell U2713HM to replace dual U2412M's which I sold. I tried 2 U2713HM's from Microcenter and they both had bad backlight bleeding and IPS glow. The right half of both screens had really bad yellow discoloration. I picked up an Asus PB278Q to test and I might try my luck from Dell Direct one last time on a U2713HM. So again, won't be going for surround gaming at all.

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post #16 of 30
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Originally Posted by maximus56 View Post

Since I own both the 690 and Titan, I would recommend a 690 for your res. That game play is smooth for both, and if there is any difference in smoothness, then at least I can't tell. However, the gpu horsepower of 690 really helps in games vs a single Titan.
I would only recommend a Titan over a 690, if you were getting two. May be this is what Nvidia hopes, as people will realize that they are not getting "enough" fps, and there would be an opportunity for an up sell. You will not run out of VRAM on your res, but you would definitely notice the fps loss over
a 690.
Two Titans may make sense for higher res. Although, I am still struggling to see what I gain by just having two Titans over a quad 690. As I have both quad setups. Beyond two Titans, the scaling is horrible in games. Perhaps this was not a worthwhile "upgrade" for me, from a performance gain perspective, even considering 6gb VRAM on 5760 x 1080 res. But, for other people upgrading from other cards, its is a good solution.

I am in the same position as maximus56, I use 690s and Titans. I agree 100% with the above and would recommend the GTX 690.
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I'm sorry you can sit there and say Nvidia all day but 2 7970 will be about the same price and get better results compared to a 690 or even a titan to be honest. So why not AMD? Too much an Nvidia fanboy? Serious questions here, not trying to troll.
post #18 of 30
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I'm sorry you can sit there and say Nvidia all day but 2 7970 will be about the same price and get better results compared to a 690 or even a titan to be honest. So why not AMD? Too much an Nvidia fanboy? Serious questions here, not trying to troll.

Seriously?... Don't post crap on this forum pages. You're saying he should get dual 7970's and be stuck with this frame latency issue?... Get yourself together mister... Nvida SLI gives better smoothness than your 7970 recommendation, 90 fps on the 690 will look and feel better than 120fps on your xfire 7970 (-___-)"

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To the OP, i would say get two MSI 680's, If i had 1000$, NO freaking doubt in my mind that, that's what i would buy for that resolution. The Titan is a great card for multiple displays and "future proofing", but if those two categories do not entice you. Then you are not the specified buyer Nvidia was going for when they made that card. Anyone that has experience will tell you that the Titan is ONLY worth it when you have two in your PC.

On your desired resolution (1440p or 1600p), a 690 is definitely the better option; however, Dual 680's will definitely be better than a single 690 because they overclock more. A single Titan is about 6% faster than dual 660 ti's on 1600p and they cost 500$ tongue.gif, so imagine what dual 680's will bring to the table. TBH, dual 680's will smoke a single Titan. It would be equivalent to two 660 (non ti) versus a single 680 tongue.gif. i think about 35% or more depending on the game.

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Seriously?... Don't post crap on this forum pages. You're saying he should get dual 7970's and be stuck with this frame latency issue?... Get yourself together mister... Nvida SLI gives better smoothness than your 7970 recommendation, 90 fps on the 690 will look and feel better than 120fps on your xfire 7970 (-___-)"




To the OP, i would say get two MSI 680's, If i had 1000$, NO freaking doubt in my mind that, that's what i would buy for that resolution. The Titan is a great card for multiple displays and "future proofing", but if those two categories do not entice you. Then you are not the specified buyer Nvidia was going for when they made that card. Anyone that has experience will tell you that the Titan is ONLY worth it when you have two in your PC.

On your desired resolution (1440p or 1600p), a 690 is definitely the better option; however, Dual 680's will definitely be better than a single 690 because they overclock more. A single Titan is about 6% faster than dual 660 ti's on 1600p and they cost 500$ tongue.gif, so imagine what dual 680's will bring to the table. TBH, dual 680's will smoke a single Titan. It would be equivalent to two 660 (non ti) versus a single 680 tongue.gif. i think about 35% or more depending on the game.

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First of all don't tell someone to not post. I've lurked in this forum for a while now and when I make my first post i get someone telling me not to post. What a way to welcome people to a forum. Do you like being told to shut up when someone doesn't like or agree with what you hav to say? Just something to think about.

I don't see what you are trying to show with the Graph that isn't hidden by the spoiler. If you are trying to show me a graph of the frames per second of those 3 cards then take another look at the graph. It is showing something measured in milliseconds. The lower part showing seconds just shows how long the graph was doing the test for. What I get from the graph, without the explanation of what it is (given by the person who made it for whatever review you took it from), is that the 690 and the titan are able to load frames into their buffer faster than the 7970s. Since it says on the side, lower is better.

I see a lot of Nvidia people complain about micro stutter and other things associated with crossfireX setups. I had 2 5770's for quite a long time and to be totally honest i never saw any issues in any of the games i played when it came to them not being smooth when in crossfire mode. Unless it was a game that just didnt support crossfire very well. Which there are still plenty, even with SLI.
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First of all don't tell someone to not post. I've lurked in this forum for a while now and when I make my first post i get someone telling me not to post. What a way to welcome people to a forum. Do you like being told to shut up when someone doesn't like or agree with what you hav to say? Just something to think about.
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First - welcome! smile.gif

The reason why people react like that is simple -> the OP clearly said he doesn't want AMD. Why? Who knows, but it's his decision, not ours. So what he expects from us is to provide recommendations within his requirements.

Second, whenever you post something like that, it inevitably turns the thread into Nvidia vs AMD battle, derailing the entire thing and lowering the chances of the OP getting the answers he needs.

And lastly, saying "Too much an Nvidia fanboy?" is not really a way of contributing to a thread.
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