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At 50 to 60 dollor mark you are better of with the corsair vs the sea-sonic they are selling for the same if not lower price and have rebates like
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096 which is a 620watt from sea-sonic at 69.99
vs http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 which is a 600watt from corsair that starts at 69.99 and then has a 20.00 rebate
orhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094 which are 64.99 for sea-sonic
vshttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027 59.99 with a 20.00 rebate for corsair
its all really up to you in the end both are good psu manufactures biggrin.gif

 

The 550W XFX Pro Series Core Edition is a SeaSonic S12II.

 

The CX500 and CX600 are way overpriced for what you get. They're nowhere near as good as the other PSUs we're talking about.

 

The 550W XFX Pro Series Core Edition is $59.99 shipped, and $49.99 after the rebate card.

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With your system even with a GTX 680 in it, all you'd need is a quality-made 400W PSU. However, I only found two PSUs worth recommending in the $50-60 price range:



Both would work very well for your system if you had a GTX 680. The 400W PSU is modular and the 550W isn't. So, this is a difficult decision, however my personal choice would be the modular PSU because they're easier to install.

i thought you needed at least 550 watts
post #13 of 25
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i thought you needed at least 550 watts

 

That's for peak-rated PSUs. Check this out:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_680_sli_review,4.html

 

With one GTX 680 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 307W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I have to add up to 150W for the 3570K at 5 GHz. So if the 3570K at 5 GHz is under full load at the same time as the GTX 680, then the PSU would be pulling 457W from the wall outlet. So if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 457W from the wall outlet, then the system is pulling 388W from the PSU. However, this is an unrealistically high power draw. A more realistic power draw will be while you're gaming, and that will top out at around maybe 325-350W. The 400W PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III can deliver 400W 24/7 if it's ever needed. ;)

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post #14 of 25
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That's for peak-rated PSUs. Check this out:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_680_sli_review,4.html

With one GTX 680 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 307W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I have to add up to 150W for the 3570K at 5 GHz. So if the 3570K at 5 GHz is under full load at the same time as the GTX 680, then the PSU would be pulling 457W from the wall outlet. So if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 457W from the wall outlet, then the system is pulling 388W from the PSU. However, this is an unrealistically high power draw. A more realistic power draw will be while you're gaming, and that will top out at around maybe 325-350W. The 400W PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III can deliver 400W 24/7 if it's ever needed. wink.gif

thanks so much! il definetly have to get it. thanks for the read too.
post #15 of 25
That Raidmax PSU you have is only good as a paperweight smash it and buy something decent like one of the PSU´s TwoCables has talked about
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post #16 of 25
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The 550W XFX Pro Series Core Edition is a SeaSonic S12II.

The CX500 and CX600 are way overpriced for what you get. They're nowhere near as good as the other PSUs we're talking about.

The 550W XFX Pro Series Core Edition is $59.99 shipped, and $49.99 after the rebate card.
yes xfx is a great unit but the cx500 and 600 are not bad at all ether and at the time I was typing my post you had post yours plus yesterday they had a nice rebate on newegg. I also find that corsair is just real good with there rebate, most of the time I don't cont them as a factor in my buying.
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You could get a hard drive twice the size for cheaper probably:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136935
    
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post #18 of 25
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yes xfx is a great unit but the cx500 and 600 are not bad at all ether and at the time I was typing my post you had post yours plus yesterday they had a nice rebate on newegg. I also find that corsair is just real good with there rebate, most of the time I don't cont them as a factor in my buying.

 

As far as I know, the CX500 and CX600 have cheap capacitors and the PSUs themselves have a low temperature rating of only 30°C. This means that these PSUs can only continuously deliver 500 or 600W as long as the PSU's internal temperature stays below 30°C, and that's only 86°F. The other PSUs are rated for 50°C, and that's 122°F which is far better and far more reasonable. Plus, they have better internals (like the capacitors are Japanese and rated at 105°C vs. the 85°C of the CX500 and CX600).

 

So, call me crazy, but I don't want to buy a PSU just because the company is good with their rebates (that is, when it's concerning cheap PSUs like the CX500 and CX600). I think the only way I'd ever recommend the CX PSUs to someone is if they're going for like $30 or something and their budget is really just that tight where they can't even afford $40 or $50. Even then, I'd be trying very hard to find better units to recommend.

 

I don't know, I just don't like recommending the CX series (except for the CX750, which is actually a nice unit).

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post #19 of 25
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As far as I know, the CX500 and CX600 have cheap capacitors and the PSUs themselves have a low temperature rating of only 30°C. This means that these PSUs can only continuously deliver 500 or 600W as long as the PSU's internal temperature stays below 30°C, and that's only 86°F. The other PSUs are rated for 50°C, and that's 122°F which is far better and far more reasonable. Plus, they have better internals (like the capacitors are Japanese and rated at 105°C vs. the 85°C of the CX500 and CX600).

So, call me crazy, but I don't want to buy a PSU just because the company is good with their rebates (that is, when it's concerning cheap PSUs like the CX500 and CX600). I think the only way I'd ever recommend the CX PSUs to someone is if they're going for like $30 or something and their budget is really just that tight where they can't even afford $40 or $50. Even then, I'd be trying very hard to find better units to recommend.

I don't know, I just don't like recommending the CX series (except for the CX750, which is actually a nice unit).
I am not doubting you on the internals of the PCU's but as fare as I can find on jonneyguru and hardware secret is a review of the cx430 and cx430 v2 which is here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-V2-Power-Supply-Review/1284/1 and it does not say any thing bad about the unit. They are build with Japaneses capacitors and hit on all the marks pulling a max of 671 watts at a internal temp of 48.6°C not that it is recommended to do so. And based of reviews of other corsair PSU I find they are well made and there is no reasion not to use one if it is in a good price point and at the time I was writing that recommendation they were. Now I know I am not an authority on computer hardware and my recommendation should be taken with a gran of salt sorry if it was not up to snuff.
And if you would kindly point me to were you found the data on the cx500 and cx600 I would much appreciate it thank you
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I am not doubting you on the internals of the PCU's but as fare as I can find on jonneyguru and hardware secret is a review of the cx430 and cx430 v2 which is here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-V2-Power-Supply-Review/1284/1 and it does not say any thing bad about the unit. They are build with Japaneses capacitors and hit on all the marks pulling a max of 671 watts at a internal temp of 48.6°C not that it is recommended to do so. And based of reviews of other corsair PSU I find they are well made and there is no reasion not to use one if it is in a good price point and at the time I was writing that recommendation they were. Now I know I am not an authority on computer hardware and my recommendation should be taken with a gran of salt sorry if it was not up to snuff.
And if you would kindly point me to were you found the data on the cx500 and cx600 I would much appreciate it thank you

 

I'm going by things I've seen the real experts have said here on OCN, and I'm also going by this:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/654983/on-corsair-psus

 

 

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Originally Posted by Phaedrus2129 View Post

CX (v1) "Builder" series
Very cheap, budget-oriented units. Fixed cables, rated at 30C, mixed Taiwanese and Chinese caps, non-80+, 2 year warranty.

CX430 - CWT DSA-II (Note: unit is overrated, actually 380W)
CX500 - CWT DSA-II
CX600 - CWT DSA-II

CXv2 "Builder" series
Cheap, budget-oriented units. Fixed cables, rated at 30C, mixed Taiwanese and Chinese caps, 80+, 3 year warranty. Same as CXv1 but with upgraded switching components and +12V rectifiers.

CX430v2 - CWT DSA-II
CX500v2 - CWT DSA-II
CX600v2 - CWT DSA-II


Further Reading

 

That's the best I have. :/

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